i am a little lost about how to use the dvd decoder and the dvd shrinker ? the tutoral from the shrinker has 2 parts, one which states to open the cd directly and modefy it (shrink it) and the other to open files already decoded with the decoder? where does the relationship between the two meld together ? or is it seperate situations ? i also shrunk a dvd down to 350, below the 480 mark and it still told me there was not enough space on the cd ? i am confused on weather to decode it and open up the files with the shrinker, or just open up the cd with the shrinker ? i hope i dont sound too stupid, but i am realitivelly new at this. i just want to burn back up copy's for my children because they destroy the originals so fast !!! thanx for all your help.