Hi people im sure people have asked all these questions before, so i would likew to thank you in advance for any advice you give me. I recently got swapdisc dvd version 2 but im having trouble with back ups, here is what i am using: NEC multispin 1300A writer. TDK DVD+R and PACKARD BELL DVD+R I usually use nero 5.5 or RECORDNOW Max 4.5 at 2.4 speed. I usually do a direct copy not create and image. My PS2 is a version 4 Back Up exprience: PRO3 and Tiger woods 2004 work fine NHL 2004 boots but when loading in to the game it freezes at the same point on three copies, different discs and burn method. rachet and clark 2: same issue, except it get the blue border at the insert disc screen and then freezes. I hope on of you guru's can advise me on the best way to burn, what program to use and what type of media for a ps2 version 4. Also, if anyone out there has managed to backup nhl 2004 and rachet and clark 2 and get it to work on dvd swap disc 2 please let me know how. Cheers guys.