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Modding PS3 without BluRay/Disc Drive

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by czech09, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. czech09

    czech09 Member

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    Hi guys,

    I have a chance to pickup a PS3 for cheap but the BluRay/Disc Drive is not working. Will I still be able to install the mod and then play games off of the hard drive?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Eisherz

    Eisherz Active member

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    Depends on the firmware that is on the PS3.
     
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    3.10 right now
     
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    Besides that problem can I run everything through a USB or do I need a working Blu-Ray?
     
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    If the drive is there, just not reading disks, then it won't be a problem...even if the drive was not there you could still do the job, it would just take extra steps.

    Not all games work through USB, in fact many newer games don't. However, almost all games work perfectly from the internal hard drive, and you can use FTP to transfer files to the internal hard drive from a PC with a bluray drive. If you don't have a PC with a bluray drive, but you have a fast internet connection, you can usually find the games online. It isn't piracy if you are holding the disk you are downloading in your hand and you simply have no way to read it.
     
  6. dennisv9

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    my experience is that discless gaming support is very limited. almost all games work WITH bd emulation, but without bd emulation most games didn't work for me. no matter if i were running them internal (< or> 4 gig files) or external (<4gig files). just try it but investing in a laser replacement will increase your gaming experience (i now can play mk9 ....)
     
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    All my games work diskless...are you using multiman?
     
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    f.i.;
    mk9 doesn't work discless on my kmeah 3.55 with MM 2.05 with bdemu2.
     
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    One game does not work? That really isn't so bad, is it? After all, you can just use SNES9X to play Mortal Kombat 3...the gameplay hasn't changed much since it was 16bit.
     
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    that is only one game; brink doesn't play discless as well. and there are many more. in the end i opted for replacing the laser, after which all the games worked flawless.
     
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    I thought they released a hack for Brink? All well...all of my games work fine without disks...and I imagine that will continue to be the case since I rarely buy games before they hit the $20 cutout rack (I sometimes pay $30 if it is a GOTY with all the DLCs). Because of this, others have to deal with the anti-user DRM, and it is all worked out by the time I get the games.
     
  12. Eisherz

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    Uh, wrong.
    You are using a copy that was illegally created, therefore downloading it is illegal. Downloading it would only be legal if the owner of the rights would have allowed the upload.
    Today most of the copies out there are illegal in most nations because you have to circumvent a copy protection to create them, which is illegal.
     
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    The licenses clearly state that when you purchase the game, you don't actually purchase the game, but rather, you purchase one license to use the game. The disk itself is just installation media.

    Anyway, if you are careful, then the only downside to piracy is that the developers don't make money to put towards the next game...and if you paid for the game, then it does not apply.
     
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    you are right, that what matters is not the disc itself but the license. but it all depends on the law of the country; is it prohibited by your country's law to make/use/download/upload a backup? it doesn't matter what the disclaimer on the discs says, i for one am not bound to us law or english law. all disclaimers always say to the limit of the law, they do not state which law. that depends on the country where you are in. in the netherlands and belgium it isn't illegal to download a copy and use it for your own purposes. so no criminal law is broken. perhaps you break the EULA, but that is civil law, e.g. you break the private agreement under which you may use the disc. all they can do, is sue each user individually. no criminal law broken there. it is - however - illegal (break criminal law) if you sell or intend to sell these copies. for that reason, it is not a crime to own copies (without the original discs) as long as you don't sell it or give it away or have the intention. in the US this is a complete different story i believe, there downloading is illegal (same as in France - recent new law), unlike the netherlands (at least for now; EU harmonization pressure might change that soon) and belgium (same here).

    it is not like the author of the disc is going to sue everyone that has a copy at home, good luck finding them and taking them to court. way to expensive.
     
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    I live in the USA, and downloading isn't illegal here. The law is a bit of a rat's nest with conflicting laws and rulings of equal validity, with judges that are easily bought, and with a civil court system that allows anyone with enough money to win any case that they are willing to spend the money on, even if the judge happens to be honest AND sober.

    To give you an idea of the mess, it is actually legal to download Windows 7, install it, and use it past the 120 day mark without a license or serial. It is not legal to put in a serial that you don't own, and it is not legal to modify the code so that the OS does not shut itself down after 2 hours. Seems like piracy is openly allowed, right? Well, not really...because if someone hacks into your PC and steals MP3s that you made from the CDs you own, you can be sued for thousands of dollars for every file the hacker copied. And you can be sued for installing OSX on a PC, even if you paid for OSX and you have the retail box and receipt.

    The law really is a mess, not based on logic or anything, but completely based on the many rulings of judges who have been bribed to say various conflicting things at different times, so it is perfectly legal to copy a VHS and give it to a friend because Sony bribed a judge...and it is illegal to backup a BluRay movie for personal use because Sony bribed a judge...but it is legal to buy hardware to backup a BluRay, I bet you can't guess why! Thankfully, all of these conflicting rulings have opened up enough loopholes that it is possible to get away with almost anything...at least until they file a civil suit; they don't have to win a civil suit...they only need to make you run out of money.
     
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    THAT is a constant in any legal system...
     
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    Yeah...but in some legal systems, you are not silenced during the 20-year ordeal...and if you are, you can at least sue the person/company who brought the suit for monies lost due to the suit.
     

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