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Discussion in 'Convert DVD to another format' started by Chewie, Jul 5, 2003.

  1. Chewie

    Chewie Guest

    I have used Tmpgnc and author to create the files i need dor dvd burn. However after burning there was no sound. Now i might of missed something out like an option (mulitplex?) now see peeps talking about this and i dont see an option in tmpgnx to do this. Can sum1 clearly explain what i have done wrong cause i am new to this.

    Any1 got a step by step through tmpgnc and author to create the files correctly?
     
  2. Chewie

    Chewie Guest

    Okay i have started all over again and have created a wp2 and a wav file. Now do i mulitplex them before DVD Author touches them? If so when i click on the multiplexing tab do i leave it at automatic?

    And with the DVD author do i just select the file that has been created by TMPGnc and create the vob's for it to write to disk? Cause last time i got quite a few IFO and VOB's and wasn't sure which ones i select to burn onto disk

    Help will be very thankfull

    Cheers
     
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    hi

    what was your video source file called? .d2v?

    what was your audio source file called? AC3 2CH?

    did you burn with audio+video settings?

    did you load a template in?

    could you say what you are starting with DVD film? mpeg?

    Thx...
     
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  4. Chewie

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    Firstly i have a mpg film which can be played on wmp then ii used TMPGnc to select the mpg film which gave me a m2v (i think it's called) and a wav file from that mpg. The audio well i'm not sure might be PCM audio but i'm not sure as i am new to all of this.

    What should i have done in the first place?
     
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    hi

    so you have an mpeg1 or 2?

    and do you want to get it to DVD?

    Thx...
     
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    Emm mpeg1 i presumecause nero wont let me to add to burn it. Yep want to convert it to dvd format ready to burn.
     
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    hi

    load mpeg in TMPGEnc DVD Author using ADD FILES

    then it takes you through a menu/wizard dont know how to use that part yet as i am learning to BUT! i have done this! so i just clicked next part!

    and run it, ok, i ended up with vobs (i dumped all other files except vobs! as that didnt run on dvd!!!) then used ifoedit on the vobs to create all files needed! to same folder

    then burn with nero on dvd - udf/iso format

    and done!

    let me know how you get on!

    are you on xp?

    thx..
     
  8. Chewie

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    no 2000 os.

    I did get to that stage with the vob's but i was wondering if they contained the audio files within them? cause the first attempt to burn them there was no sound just the video.

    You see i know i am missing something out when using TMPGEnc like settings and such and author i think i know cause that pretty simple.

    I just need sum1 to send me a step by step using these 2 programs on how to convert the avi file to dvd format to burn with nero....

    if so e-mail is cougars@barrysworld.com

    Rotary thanks man
     
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    hi

    did you run vobs in powerdvd? they should have sound in mine did!

    thxxxx
     
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    Actually yes i did try the vob's in power dvd but no there was not any sound so i must of missed something in TMPGEnc or TMPGEnc dvd author beofre the vob's were created.

    I need help fast eeekkk!
     
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    hi

    ok, are you starting with a dvd file format?

    or mpeg? did you use dvd2avi to get .d2v and wave file?

    can you say what you have to start and what program and settings you used?

    we can go from there!

    i myself are doing this too to get one i did better quality! so we can go through together!

    i am going from dvd ntsc to dvd pal !

    Thxxx
     
  12. Chewie

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    Firstly i am starting with an avi or can use a mpg which then i turned into w2v and a wav file.
    The i muliplex them to give me 1 file producing 1 single file and the i used author to create the vob's.
    Dont ask me about settings i cant remember as i am using another pc, and to be honest i dont really understand the settings myself.

    TMPGEnc and TMPGEnc Author is the programs i am using m8.
     
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    Standards Conversion (on the cheap)
    I hope this page will provide a useful guide for converting video of various formats from one video standard to another. There is not one absolutely correct way to convert from one standard to another, and any conversion technique will have its own set of advantages and disadvantages. The quality of the conversion is in the eye of the beholder, but I believe the methods shown here will provide an excellent balance between quality and simplicity.

    Tools
    The following tools are used by the methods outlined below. Please consult the installation instructions of the tools specified.

    TMPGEnc – MPEG 1 and 2 encoder (MPEG 2 encode requires purchase after the initial trial period expires).
    AVISynth – A script-based video processing application.
    BeSweet – A command-line-based audio processing application.
    BeSweetGUI – A GUI front end for BeSweet.
    DVD2AVI – A tool for extracting the video and audio from DVD VOB files.
    MPEG2DEC.dll – An MPEG 2 decoder.
    SmoothDeinterlacer.dll – An AVISynth plugin that converts interlaced video to non-interlaced video.
    WSOLA.exe – A command-line utility to time scale audio.
    Conversions
    The intersection between your desired source (top) and destination (left) indicates the resulting frame rate (p = progressive, i = interlace). Click on this link to be taken to the steps for the specific method of conversion.


    NTSC to PAL

    I. PAL VCD (25 Fps) -> NTSC (Film) VCD (23.976 Fps)
    Load the source DAT file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source" (the "Audio Source" selection should automatically change to match the "Video Source.").
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Select the "Wave file" item in the "Output to file" sub-menu of the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the destination WAV file.
    Click "Save" to decode and convert the audio from the DAT file to a temporary WAV file.
    Use WSOLA.exe to slow down the audio using the following command line
    DRIVE:\PATH\WSOLA DRIVE:\PATH\AVSEQxx.wav DRIVE:\PATH\NTSC.wav 1.04271
    Load the WAV file created above into TMPGEnc as the "Audio Source."
    Load the "VideoCD (NTSCFilm)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an MPG extension.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Check the "Do not frame rate conversion" in the "Advanced" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert, encode and multiplex the video and audio.
    Author and Burn Your VCD
    At this point your MPEG file is ready to be authored and burned to a VCD. Various methods exist for this, which are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    II. PAL (Film) DVD (25 Fps) -> NTSC (Film) VCD (23.976 Fps)
    Run DVD2AVI and load the decrypted VOBs using the "Open" item in the "File" menu (you need to choose only the first one of a sequence).
    Check the "None" item in the "Field Operation" sub-menu of the "Video" menu.
    Choose the desired audio track number (usually "Track 1") in the "Track Number" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Decode" item in the "Dolby Digital" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Auto Select" item in the "Channel Format" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "UltraHigh" item in the "48 -> 44.1 KHz" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Select the "Save Project" item in the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the DVD2AVI project name. A small text file with the D2V extension will be created, and the audio track specified above will be extracted from the VOB and decompressed to a WAV file in the same location.
    Use WSOLA.exe to slow down the audio using the following command line
    DRIVE:\PATH\WSOLA DRIVE:\PATH\VTS_xx_x.wav DRIVE:\PATH\NTSC.wav 1.04271
    Load the D2V file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source."
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Load the WAV file created above into TMPGEnc as the "Audio Source."
    Load the "VideoCD (NTSCFilm)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an MPG extension.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Check "Do not frame rate conversion" in the "Advanced" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert and encode the video.
    Author and Burn Your VCD
    At this point your MPEG file has been created. However, in most cases it will be too large for a single VCD and must be split. Various methods exist for splitting the file and buring the VCD, but they are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    III. PAL (Video) DVD (25i Fps) -> NTSC (Film) VCD (23.976 Fps)
    Run DVD2AVI and load the decrypted VOBs using the "Open" item in the "File" menu (you need to choose only the first one of a sequence).
    Check the "None" item in the "Field Operation" sub-menu of the "Video" menu.
    Choose the desired audio track number (usually "Track 1") in the "Track Number" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Decode" item in the "Dolby Digital" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Auto Select" item in the "Channel Format" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "UltraHigh" item in the "48 -> 44.1 KHz" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Select the "Save Project" item in the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the DVD2AVI project name. A small text file with the D2V extension will be created, and the audio track specified above will be extracted from the VOB and decompressed to a WAV file in the same location.
    Use WSOLA.exe to slow down the audio using the following command line
    DRIVE:\PATH\WSOLA DRIVE:\PATH\VTS_xx_x.wav DRIVE:\PATH\NTSC.wav 1.04271
    Load the D2V file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source."
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Load the WAV file created above into TMPGEnc as the "Audio Source."
    Load the "VideoCD (NTSCFilm)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an MPG extension.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Double-click the "Deinterlace" item in the "Advanced" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Choose "Even field (adaptation)" from the pulldown menu and click "OK."
    Check "Do not frame rate conversion" in the "Advanced" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert and encode the video.
    Author and Burn Your VCD
    At this point your MPEG file has been created. However, in most cases it will be too large for a single VCD and must be split. Various methods exist for splitting the file and buring the VCD, but they are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    IV. NTSC (Film) VCD (23.976 Fps) -> PAL VCD (25 Fps)
    Load the source DAT file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source" (the "Audio Source" selection should automatically change to match the "Video Source.").
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Select the "Wave file" item in the "Output to file" sub-menu of the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the destination WAV file.
    Click "Save" to decode and convert the audio from the DAT file to a temporary WAV file.
    Use WSOLA.exe to slow down the audio using the following command line
    DRIVE:\PATH\WSOLA DRIVE:\PATH\AVSEQxx.wav DRIVE:\PATH\NTSC.wav 0.95904
    Load the WAV file created above into TMPGEnc as the "Audio Source."
    Load the "VideoCD (PAL)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an MPG extension.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Check the "Do not frame rate conversion" in the "Advanced" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert, encode and multiplex the video and audio.
    Author and Burn Your VCD
    At this point your MPEG file is ready to be authored and burned to a VCD. Various methods exist for this, which are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    V. NTSC VCD (29.97 Fps) -> PAL VCD (25 Fps)
    NOTE: Using available software, it is virtually impossible to get good quality from this conversion. Converting a 29.97 Fps NTSC VCD to a PAL SVCD or PAL DVD is a better choice when possible.

    Select the "MPEG Tools..." item of the "File" menu in TMPGEnc.
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Load the source DAT file into the "Input:" field of the "Simple De-multiplex" tab of the "MPEG Tools" dialog.
    Delete the filename and path automatically placed into the "Video output:" field.
    Choose a location and filename for the destination MP2 file in the "Audio output:" field.
    Click "Run" to de-multiplex the audio from the DAT file.
    Close the "MPEG Tools" dialog.
    Create and open a new text file with an AVS extension (to be used with AVISynth), using your favorite text editor (like Notepad).
    Add the following lines, filling in the location and filename of the file you created above:
    DirectShowSource("DRIVE:\PATH\AVSEQxx.dat")
    ConvertFPS(25)
    LanczosResize(352,288)
    ConvertToRGB()
    Save the AVS file.
    Load the AVS file created above into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source."
    Load the "VideoCD (PAL)" template.
    Load the "unlock" template (located in the "Extra" directory).
    Select "Video only" in the "Stream type" region.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an M1V extension.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert, and encode the video.
    Select the "MPEG Tools..." item of the "File" menu in TMPGEnc.
    Load the M1V video file created above into the "Video input:" field of the "Simple Multiplex" tab of the "MPEG Tools" dialog.
    Load the MP2 audio file created above into the "Audio input:" field of the "Simple Multiplex" tab of the "MPEG Tools" dialog.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output:" field with an MPG extension.
    Click "Run" to multiplex the audio and video into one MPEG file.
    Author and Burn Your VCD
    At this point your MPEG file is ready to be authored and burned to a VCD. Various methods exist for this, which are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    VI. PAL (Video) DVD (25i Fps) -> NTSC DVD (29.97i Fps)
    Run DVD2AVI and load the decrypted VOBs using the "Open" item in the "File" menu (you need to choose only the first one of a sequence).
    Check the "None" item in the "Field Operation" sub-menu of the "Video" menu.
    Choose the desired audio track number (usually "Track 1") in the "Track Number" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Demux" item in the "Dolby Digital" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Auto Select" item in the "Channel Format" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Off" item in the "48 -> 44.1 KHz" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Select the "Save Project" item in the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the DVD2AVI project name. A small text file with the D2V extension will be created, and the audio track specified above will be extracted from the VOB into an AC3 file in the same location.
    Create and open a new text file with an AVS extension (to be used with AVISynth), using your favorite text editor (like Notepad).
    Add the following lines, filling in the location and filename of the file you created above:
    LoadPlugin("MPEG2DEC.dll")
    LoadPlugin("SmoothDeinterlacer.dll")
    MPEG2Source("DRIVE:\PATH\VTS_xx_x.d2v")
    SmoothDeinterlace(doublerate=true)
    LanczosResize(720,480)
    ChangeFPS(59.94) # or ConvertFPS(59.94)
    SeparateFields()
    SelectEvery(4,1,2)
    Weave()
    ConvertToRGB()
    Save the AVS file.
    Ensure that MPEG2DEC.dll is installed. (If this file is placed in the \WINNT\System32 or \Windows\System directory, the full path is not needed, as illustrated in the above script. Otherwise, add the full path to the LoadPlugin() command.)
    Ensure that SmoothDeinterlacer.dll is installed. (If this file is placed in the \WINNT\System32 or \Windows\System directory, the full path is not needed, as illustrated in the above script. Otherwise, add the full path to the LoadPlugin() command.)
    Load the AVS file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source."
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Load the "DVD (NTSC)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Load the "unlock" template (located in the "Extra" directory).
    Select "Video only" in the "Stream type" region.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an M2V extension.
    In the "Rate control mode:" field, choose the type of encoding you want. Multi-pass variable bit rate (VBR) settings produce better quality, but take longer to encode. Choose your bit rate based on quality desired, length of video, size of AC3 above, size of other files that will be on the destinaion disc, and the size of destination medium. Do not exceed 9800 kbit/sec.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Motion search precision:" field on the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert, and encode the video.
    Author and Burn Your DVD
    At this point your audio and video files are ready to be authored and burned to a DVD. Various methods exist for this, which are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions

    VII. NTSC (Video) DVD (29.97i Fps) -> PAL DVD (25i Fps)
    Run DVD2AVI and load the decrypted VOBs using the "Open" item in the "File" menu (you need to choose only the first one of a sequence).
    Check the "None" item in the "Field Operation" sub-menu of the "Video" menu.
    Choose the desired audio track number (usually "Track 1") in the "Track Number" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Demux" item in the "Dolby Digital" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Auto Select" item in the "Channel Format" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Check the "Off" item in the "48 -> 44.1 KHz" sub-menu of the "Audio" menu.
    Select the "Save Project" item in the "File" menu.
    Choose a location and filename for the DVD2AVI project name. A small text file with the D2V extension will be created, and the audio track specified above will be extracted from the VOB into an AC3 file in the same location.
    Create and open a new text file with an AVS extension (to be used with AVISynth), using your favorite text editor (like Notepad).
    Add the following lines, filling in the location and filename of the file you created above:
    LoadPlugin("MPEG2DEC.dll")
    LoadPlugin("SmoothDeinterlacer.dll")
    MPEG2Source("DRIVE:\PATH\VTS_xx_x.d2v")
    SeparateFields()
    Weave()
    SmoothDeinterlace(doublerate=true)
    ConvertFPS(50) # or ChangeFPS(50)
    LanczosResize(720,576)
    SeparateFields()
    SelectEvery(4,1,2)
    Weave()
    ConvertToRGB()
    Save the AVS file.
    Ensure that MPEG2DEC.dll is installed. (If this file is placed in the \WINNT\System32 or \Windows\System directory, the full path is not needed, as illustrated in the above script. Otherwise, add the full path to the LoadPlugin() command.)
    Ensure that SmoothDeinterlacer.dll is installed. (If this file is placed in the \WINNT\System32 or \Windows\System directory, the full path is not needed, as illustrated in the above script. Otherwise, add the full path to the LoadPlugin() command.)
    Load the AVS file into TMPGEnc as the "Video Source."
    NOTE: Cancel the Wizard dialog box which appears when you run TMPGEnc.

    Load the "DVD (PAL)" template into TMPGEnc.
    Load the "unlock" template (located in the "Extra" directory).
    Select "Video only" in the "Stream type" region.
    Specify the location and name of the "Output file name" with an M2V extension.
    In the "Rate control mode:" field, choose the type of encoding you want. Multi-pass variable bit rate (VBR) settings produce better quality, but take longer to encode. Choose your bit rate based on quality desired, length of video, size of AC3 above, size of other files that will be on the destinaion disc, and the size of destination medium. Do not exceed 9800 kbit/sec.
    Choose "Motion estimate search (fast)" or "Highest quality (very slow)" in the "Motion search precision:" field on the "Video" tab of the "Setting" dialog.
    Press "Start" to convert, and encode the video.
    Author and Burn Your DVD
    At this point your audio and video files are ready to be authored and burned to a DVD. Various methods exist for this, which are beyond the scope of this Standards Conversion document.

    Back to Conversions
     
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    Chewie Guest

    Okay cheers m8 after reading up on what you posted, i had a go and was able to produce a much better video quality. However when it tried to get author to do it's task it came saying 640x" " or something will no tplay on a standard dvd player

    23. something will not be able to play on a standard dvd player.

    Now should i have changed the settings in TMPGEnc before a started i.e resolution, fps and so on.

    Need you help again m8 i'm nearly there. :)
    Plus i'm trying to keep to the standard conversion here cause i'm new to this. However what resolution do you recommend to convert too and audio settings. Cause when i played the mpg that was produced by Tmpgnc it had no sound but the quality was good is this right? did all the muliplex thingy as well.

    My kids are getting desperate to see this bloody movie.

    If i can talk to you on msn m8 it would be great of you.
     
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