It has been awhile but I have a few dvds that I would like to back-up. I am using dvdfab(just dowloaded newer version), shrink and imageburn. I can burn the saw 3 with fab, but shrink will not recognize the disk and imagburn will not even find let me open the file. I am not a whiz when it comes to this and I need something as simple as possible. Should I get rid of the programs that I have and start over? If so what are some good programs to get? I have run anydvd in the past and had good results. Thank You!