Scuba, i don't really know you but I've seen a bunch of articles you've posted and you're obviously the one to talk to. I've got 170 dvd's in my collection that I'd like to back up along with some Ps2 games. I've been looking at stand alone burners, which would be the most convenient for me, but they don't copy protected cd's...which from my research...all dvd's are protected. That brings me to the "shrinking" software or whatever. I've done my homework, BELIEVE ME. Countless hours of reading forums here, and it just seems like you have to build freakin' computers to back up a stinking movie. I'll boil my questions down easy. Stand alone burners vs external computer burner? I've heard Pioneer burners are the best, can you recommend some? I've already read your guide on the best media What software or programs do I need to "shrink" or do whatever it is I have to do? I've read your massive article on exactly how to go through the whole process of the best way to back up dvd's, and that just confused me more than anything. I didn't even understand half the words you were using. To make it worse, a ton of people wrote back saying that was the best info they ever got in their life. Arrr, please help.