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NERO burning problems - NEC 2510

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by kepners, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. kepners

    kepners Member

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    problem with DVD burners.

    I use winXP-sp1 (only) + Nero 6.0136 (the newest) + IMG files to burn mounted from the slave drive 250GB + mounting using daemon. drive is are cleaned and defraged every week. Primary harddrive about 40GB and 50% full. Only burnt about 100DVD's

    Now, when i first recieved my NEC2510 products i burned lots and lots of disks with no problem what-so-ever. until two weeks ago, where the lenght of time it takes to burn a single layer 4.7GB disk has gone up from (Nero predicted) 6mins30sec to the now over running 9min49sec.
    I can actually hear what is happening the burners start up at 8xspeed then jump down to 4xspeed (@10%) for abotu 2mins then jump up again to 8speed.... carriers on then jumps down at about 54% then jumps up to 8xspeed (@63% when the time runs out)and finishes the rest of the durn off at 8speed.
    what is going on please. i cant work it out.
    When i first got the burners they would work to6mins regardless of whatever programs i ran in the back ground, but now anything that runs adds to the time.
    I have updates my firmware as well. as one of the remadies. well it has managed to sort some of the time delay out, but its crept back to 9+mins from just over 8mins after the firmware update.

    I cant work out whats going on. can someone help me.
     
  2. ccampbell

    ccampbell Regular member

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    Can you post a log from one of these writes, so we can see what is occuring?

    Be sure to edit out your Nero 6 serial key before posting the log file.

    Regards,

    Craig
    Ahead Software
    USA
     
  3. mcalister

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    Hey ccampbell neros new version rocks !!
     
  4. kepners

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    here you go.

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 22/07/2004 17:33:44
    Nero version: 6.3.1.20
    Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A> Version: 2.16 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.20
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A >Version: 2.16 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.20
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400BB-00DEA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y250P0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A E: CDRom0
    _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A F: CDRom1
    Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom2
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
    Free physical memory: 687MB (703500kB)
    Memory in use : 32 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    27.10.2004
    UDF/ISO compilation
    20:39:08 #1 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
    Backup file 'VTS_01_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_01_0.IFO'

    20:39:08 #2 Phase 117 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    DVD-Video files compliance test failed

    20:39:14 #3 Phase 132 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    DVD-Video files compliance ignored

    20:39:14 #4 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    20:39:14 #5 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    DVD-Video files sorted

    20:39:14 #6 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:39:14 #7 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:39:14 #8 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
    Reader running

    20:39:14 #9 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A running

    20:39:14 #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    20:39:14 #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    20:39:14 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    20:39:14 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2184623 (485:28.23, 4266MB)

    20:39:14 #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    20:39:14 #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
    Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    20:39:14 #16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    20:39:14 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2184624 (2184624) = #2184624/485:28.24
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2184624 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    20:39:14 #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
    Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4474109952, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2184624 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    20:39:15 #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    Caching of files started

    20:39:15 #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4183
    Cache writing successful.

    20:39:15 #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    Caching of files completed

    20:39:17 #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    20:39:17 #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    20:39:17 #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
    Set remaining time: 6:49,317 (409317ms) -> OK

    20:39:17 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1942
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    20:39:17 #26 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20531
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    20:39:17 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2083
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    20:39:17 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8128
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    20:39:17 #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:39:17 #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:39:17 #31 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:39:17 #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4661
    Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
    Booktype request: DVD-ROM, write to RAM
    select Booktype setting from RAM

    20:39:24 #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1294
    20:39:24.046 - _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    20:48:48 #34 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
    <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2184624 (2155B0h), lenght 0 blocks

    20:48:49 #35 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    20:48:49 #36 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2325
    EndDAO: Last written address was 2184623

    20:48:58 #37 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:48:58 #38 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5367
    Booktype counter: 500, Booktype selected in RAM, command version 2

    20:48:58 #39 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4661
    Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
    Booktype request: DVD-ROM, write to RAM
    select Booktype setting from RAM

    20:48:58 #40 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    20:48:58 #41 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    20:48:58 #42 Phase 161 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
    Burn process completed successfully with warnings


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28/10/2003 11:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 09:27:50 (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  5. ccampbell

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    Hi mcalistar,

    Thanks for the comment. :)


    Hi Kepners,

    The only thing I see that is causing a delay is that you did get a 'Queue again later' error, which means a command was issued to the Recorder, but it was busy. The next time the command was issued, the recorder was free and accepted the command.

    20:39:17 #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4661
    Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A
    Booktype request: DVD-ROM, write to RAM
    select Booktype setting from RAM

    20:39:24 #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1294
    20:39:24.046 - _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A\H1 T0 : Queue again later



    What caused the drive to be busy? I can only guess at this point, but it does look like this message occured after the command to Change the BookType to DVD-ROM. The process did complete, but there may be a problem here that either we need to look into, or the Recorder MFG does with their firmware. Each Recorder has a slightly different process for changing the booktype.

    You can also try a different brand of media, to see if that helps, as it may.

    Regards,

    Craig
    Ahead Software
    USA
     
  6. kepners

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    So you think its nothing to do with Nero or my system or anything like that?
    its a very weird and strange thing.
    i guess i will have to put up with it, unless you have any ideas.
     
  7. ccampbell

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    The log file does not show anything that is going wrong, so I doubt it's your system.

    It could be a firmware issue, or how we are implementing the Change BookType for that drive. We'll have to look at the drive from our end in Engineering and if it's a firmware issue report it to the MFG to address. If its our code, then we can address it.

    So, it could be our software, it could be the firmware, or it could just be the media you are currently using.

    Regards,

    Craig

    Ahead Software
    USA
     

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