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# of passes when using cce?

Discussion in 'Copy DVD to DVDR' started by Escobar22, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. Escobar22

    Escobar22 Member

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    How do u know the right amount to use in order to achieve a small enough file size to fit on a single layer dvd-r?

    That's the only problem I've had using CCE
     
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    The number of passes shouldn't affect the size of the output, just the quality. It's debatable whether anything more than 2 passes (1 VAF pass and 1 M2V pass in CCE SP terms) makes any difference in quality.

    What kind of problems are you having with the output size, what version of CCE are you using, and are you using it with another program like DVD-RB or DVD2DVDR?
     
  3. Escobar22

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    Good looks on responding

    I'm using CCE SP Ver. 2.67.00.27 along with DVD Rebuilder

    Basically, I'm having a problem when I rip a large dvd (say around 7 GB's) it comes out too big for a dvd-r

    Can I do anything to fix this?

    THe reason I ask about passes is because I know some groups (such as the one who ripped Harry Potter, but I won't name them) include in the nfo how many passes they used

    I thought maybe that affected the size

    Thanks for any help in advance
     
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    The latest version of Rebuilder is .63a. What version are you using? If it is an older version, I would suggest seeing what happens before changing any settings.
     
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    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    I agree. Older versions had many issues with that version of CCE.
     
  6. Escobar22

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    Thanks for the help, guys.

    So, ur telling me that when u use cce and rebuilder ur dvd files always come under the 4.38 gb's needed to fit on a single dvd-r?
     
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    Yes, mine have always been right at 4.32 GB. I began with RB .56, and it has always been that way using Basic CCE. There were issues with your version of CCE, though, and some couldn't get it to work until RB was revised.

     
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    The only sizing issues I've had have been due to my custom settings. When I haven't had the output size tweaked through the REBUILDER.INI file I've always ended up with a disc that's approximately 4.32GB.
     
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    Aight, I'm gonna try it with a new version rebuilder

    What version of CCE do you guys use?
     
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    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    I use CCE Basic 2.69.01.09

    Edit: If you haven't done so already, I recommend creating an account at Doom9 so you can subscribe to the thread linked to. That way you'll always know when a new version is released.
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
    DVD Rebuilder Guides: http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial_advanced.cfm[/small]
     
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  12. Escobar22

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    Weird

    I made a copy of Smallville which is 7 gb's and it came to the right size this time

    Must've been my version of Rebuilder

    Props to u guys for the help

    One more question:

    Is there a way besides just looking at the dvd to know it's higher quality than using DVDShrink or another application?
     
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    There are different tools used to analyze the I, B, and P frames that make up the video, but ultimately it's our sense of sight and personal preference which tells us what is quality.
     
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    ^^^^ What tools are there?

    And a new problem, lol

    on 2 of my three dvd players, the sound doesn't sync up

    This has never happened before

    I'm figuring it has to more do with the DVD players than with anything else, but just asking

    Any suggestions?
     
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    Here is an article where the author did some testing on DVD Shrink. It will give you an idea about tools and their application:

    http://people.freenet.de/mb1svcd/

    Concerning your synch problem, I don't have an explanation. If it were me, I would encode more DVD's to try to find a pattern.
     
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    Aight, thanks alot to everyone who helped

    I appreciate it
     

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