hi, i've read tonnes of guide & researched numerous websites for .ogm files, and i come to this conclusion, if wrong , please correct me. .ogm is a media container. to play it, i'll need a splitter/directshow filter(qn:are they the same thing???) to recognise the container first, EITHER illuminable ogg codecs for windows at http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ OR OGM DS Package at http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/codecs_and_filters/ogg_directshow.cfm next, i'll need the correct codec to play the file e.g. XviD, DivX, etc now, i meet up with a problem. i've installed illimnable's ogg codecs, but i can't play .ogm video files, but i can play .ogg audio files. my ogm file has mp3 audio and DivX video. i have both codecs. is it because i don't VobSub installed? and, for matroska video, is gabest's splitter or haali's splitter better? i heard that haali supports ogm container also?? and after installing the splitter, do i still need to install vobsub/vsfilter to read subtitiles??