Wow, I was lookin' for the best deal on a Pioneer 16x and Dual Layer burner (was hoping to pay under $100) and I came across this. http://www.shop4tech.com/item2670.html The same drive as the DVD-108 but the "OEM" version for a lot less money. $84.99 would be a great price as it is listed but there's a coupon code "burners10" which makes the final price $76.49 shipped! http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=2671&cata=3&s_cata=28 Also just noticed they have this one which comes with DL recording software, Record Now and Sonic for $98.99. Hmmm, I think the software deal is definitely even better.