Hello all, I'm still having trouble backing up nhl 2004. I have researched all of the forums before sending this message. The main thing I'm wondering is if it is possible to copy this game without discjuggler. I have read that the files need to be copied to the disc in a specific order, in order for it to work. I have extracted the iso onto my hard drive and replaced the dummy file, and tried burning with nero, but the game still locks up when getting ready to play. I also read somewhere that sony cd/dvd generator 1.5 would allow me to burn the files in the correct order, however I couldn't find it anywhere on the net. I would be happy with any help possible. Thanks.