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  1. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    Plex owners,
    The latest Safedisc 3.15 (Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time) and SecuROM 4.8.x(Max Payne 2: The Fall Of Max Payne, Mace Griffen Bounty Hunter and Spell Force) are causing major headaches for those attempting to make backups. I have 30+ errors(not coasters) trying to backup Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time as I have tried literally every "dup" program there is. Hell, I can't even get a backup to launch using emulation but I can get the game to launch using Daemon Tools (mount image>enable Safedisc emulation).
    I'll post some logs and I'm asking in your spare time to post on this thread whether you had success or a failure. If you need help with the logs please "PM"(Private message) me and I'll be glad to help!

    Shoey :)
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  2. Shoey

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    This is a Blindwrite 5 (BW5) post looks like. If you have BlindWrite 5 installed on your pc and wan't to know where it's located, simply go to the directory to where you installed BW5. (Example): C:\Program Files\VSO\Blindwrite5\BW5 (text log).Although I don't own a Plex Premium or Plex PX-708A dvd burner, here is a BW5 log post. The test pc game is Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time) using Blindwrite Tweaker 1.5.0
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    1/19/2004 11:25:13 AM info Writing completed in 10:35
    1/19/2004 11:25:09 AM info Finalize started
    1/19/2004 11:14:40 AM info Write started
    1/19/2004 11:14:40 AM info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info DAO PW writing mode selected
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info Writing speed required x8, effective x8
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info DAO writing mode preferred
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info Media ID can't be read
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POP_PLAY] - Image Size 829 Mb.
    1/19/2004 11:14:38 AM info Writing device : 2:1:0 - LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-411S FS0H [E] (Ide)
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info Launched with external parameters
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.18, Internal revision 18
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info ParamStr 2 = "G:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info ParamStr 0 = "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5 5.07\bw.exe"
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info Version 5.0.7.122
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.7.122
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info ExeName : "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5 5.07\bw.exe"
    1/19/2004 11:14:33 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    ======================================================

    1/19/2004 11:09:41 AM info Media topology isn't required
    1/19/2004 11:09:41 AM info Extraction successful in 02:35
    1/19/2004 11:09:41 AM info 7 sectors fixed between LBA 010004 and 010155
    1/19/2004 11:07:28 AM info Free Space on destination path 26.7 Gb.
    1/19/2004 11:07:28 AM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [POP_PLAY] - Image Size 829 Mb.
    1/19/2004 11:07:28 AM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    1/19/2004 11:07:06 AM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - JLMS XJ-HD165H CH11 [D] (Ide)
    1/19/2004 11:07:06 AM info Extraction started
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info Launched with external parameters
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.18, Internal revision 18
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info ParamStr 2 = "G:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info ParamStr 0 = "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5 5.07\bw.exe"
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info Version 5.0.7.122
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.7.122
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info ExeName : "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5 5.07\bw.exe"
    1/19/2004 11:07:00 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
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    Backup failed to play in my Lite ON LTD 165H dvd-rom.

    Prince Of Persia:Sands Of Time is Safedisc 3.15 cd protected and very few people have been able to make successful backups. I can "mount the image" using Daemon Tools and the game plays just fine by using Safedisc emulation.

    Shoey :)
     
  3. Nephilim

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    Shoey, I've read that when using BW5 the topology extraction isn't required for Safedisc but is required for SecuROM. Can you verify this for me?

    Also is the "failure to extract topology" a known issue for BW5? I've been messing around trying to backup a SecuROM 4.84 disc and the topology fails on all three of my drives.

    Any speculation for what protection Half-Life 2 will use? I've got a voucher for it and it's supposed to be released March 1. I can't wait to see if I can dupe it.

    (I'll be getting COD back Friday, will post logs asap)

    Cheers
     
  4. Shoey

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    That is correct Neph
    Blindwrite 5 5.08 is a beta tester and has topo bugs.Toshiba drives are not "compatable" with Blindwrite 5 and fail to extract topo. Be sure that you're using Blindwrite 5 5.07 and if using Blindwrite Tweaker, then be sure that you put in the SecuROM 4.8.4 protected cd(play disc). In the Topo tab folder be sure always extract is enabled and in basic setting tab folder, choose read and set extract speed to 24x then down at the bottom run Blindwrite.



    1) What are the brand name drives that are failing to extract topo?
    2) What Blindwrite 5 version are you using?
    3) What SecuROM pc game are you backing up?
    4) Have you tried Blindwrite 5(without Blindwrite Tweaker) and does Blindwrite fail to extract topo?


    Nobody knows m8 but my guess would be SecuROM 4.x or 5.x

    Shoey :)



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  5. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    Afterdawn forum members,
    For those of you having troubles backing up SecuROM 4.x with the latest Blindwrite 5.07, simply uninstall>reboot>and rollback to Blindwrite 5 5.1

    Blindwrite 5 5.1
    http://vso.nerim.net/BlindWrite5_setup_51.exe

    Please post your BW5 logs..

    Shoey
     
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    Shoey,

    1: My PX-708A, Premium and LTD-166S were all failing to extract topo.

    2: Using BW 5.5.7

    3: Postal 2/SecuROM 4.84

    4: BW 5.5.7 was failing the topo extract with and without Tweaker. The strange thing was that when I tried to knock the topo extract down to 4X with Tweaker , it would default back to 8X. Any ideas as to why?

    I've since rolled back to BW5.1 and will post back.
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  7. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    Remember to use Blindwrite tweaker m8. I can confirm that COD(Call Of Duty) is Safedisc 3.10 and Prince Of Persia: Sands Of Time is Safedisc 3.15

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    my mind is a travesty, I will post the correct info soon.

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    Here's what I was trying to do in my last post.

    1/21/2004 8:36:12 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/21/2004 8:36:07 PM info BWT 5 file contains topology data: Quality 98%
    1/21/2004 8:36:07 PM info Topology extraction completed in 01:19
    1/21/2004 8:36:07 PM info Topology extracted. Quality 98%
    1/21/2004 8:34:48 PM info Fast Topology: Max speed selected, x40 returned by device
    1/21/2004 8:34:48 PM info Topology extraction started
    1/21/2004 8:34:48 PM info Extraction successful in 04:07
    1/21/2004 8:30:41 PM info Free Space on destination path 124 Gb.
    1/21/2004 8:30:41 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/21/2004 8:30:41 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1 and following
    1/21/2004 8:30:40 PM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/21/2004 8:30:40 PM info Extraction started
    1/21/2004 8:30:20 PM info Loaded read profile Automatic
    1/21/2004 8:30:20 PM info Launched with external parameters
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.19, Internal revision 19
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info Version 5.1.0.127
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.0.127
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/21/2004 8:30:14 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************


    Using BW5Tweaker, I set the max read at 24X, max write at 8X and topo extract at 8X. I've run through these exact settings and if you'll notice in the log BW keeps setting the topo extract to max read and the resulting disc is unplayable in my LTD-166S. What am I missing?
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  10. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    You're not missing a thing m8. Blindwrite 5 by "default" extracts topo at fast speed despite using the Blindwrite Tweaker. I've informed the Blindwrite team about this matter but they choose to do nothing about it (at this time). I don't see your write log? Did your Plextor PX-708A write VariRec(Varirate)? (using Blindwrite Tweaker 1.5.0\Topology tab folder\write with Plextor Premium)? A post from Afterdawn forum member "WildBill" using Blindwrite 5 5.0.1.112 backing up Max Payne 2: The Fall Of Max Payne (UK version)=SecuROM 4.85 cd protected
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    17/01/2004 12:09:56 info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    17/01/2004 12:07:19 info Topology extraction completed in 03:29
    17/01/2004 12:03:49 info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
    17/01/2004 12:03:49 info Topology extraction started
    17/01/2004 12:03:49 info Extraction successful in 02:02
    17/01/2004 12:01:49 info Free Space on destination path 74.8 Gb.
    17/01/2004 12:01:49 info Reading CD-R Disc [Play] - Image Size 406 Mb.
    17/01/2004 12:01:49 info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    17/01/2004 12:01:47 info Reading device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [D] (Ide)
    17/01/2004 12:01:47 info Extraction started
    17/01/2004 12:00:29 info Writing completed in 10:57
    17/01/2004 12:00:09 info Finalize started
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Write started
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info DAO PW writing mode selected
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Writing speed required x4, effective x4
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info DAO writing mode preferred
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Media topology will be reproduced by Varirate
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Writing CD-ROM Disc [Play] - Image Size 406 Mb.
    17/01/2004 11:49:32 info Writing device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [D] (Ide)
    17/01/2004 11:48:27 info Topology extraction completed in 04:37
    17/01/2004 11:43:49 info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
    17/01/2004 11:43:49 info Topology extraction started
    17/01/2004 11:43:49 info Extraction successful in 06:03
    17/01/2004 11:37:45 info Free Space on destination path 75.4 Gb.
    17/01/2004 11:37:45 info Reading CD-R Disc [Install 2] - Image Size 584 Mb.
    17/01/2004 11:37:45 info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    17/01/2004 11:37:45 info Reading device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [D] (Ide)
    17/01/2004 11:37:45 info Extraction started
    17/01/2004 11:36:21 info Topology extraction completed in 04:31
    17/01/2004 11:31:49 info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
    17/01/2004 11:31:49 info Topology extraction started
    17/01/2004 11:31:49 info Extraction successful in 02:37
    17/01/2004 11:29:13 info Free Space on destination path 76 Gb.
    17/01/2004 11:29:13 info Reading CD-R Disc [Install 1] - Image Size 584 Mb.
    17/01/2004 11:29:13 info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    17/01/2004 11:29:12 info Reading device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [D] (Ide)
    17/01/2004 11:29:12 info Extraction started
    17/01/2004 11:24:41 info Writing completed in 15:12
    17/01/2004 11:24:21 info Finalize started
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Write started
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info DAO PW writing mode selected
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Writing speed required x4, effective x4
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info DAO writing mode preferred
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 warning Media topology ignored.
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Writing CD-ROM Disc [Install 1] - Image Size 584 Mb.
    17/01/2004 11:09:29 info Writing device : 1:0:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [D] (Ide)
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.15, Internal revision 15
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info User default language : 2057 (0x0809h) - English (United Kingdom)
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info Version 5.0.1.112
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.1.112
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info ExeName : "C:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
    17/01/2004 10:38:43 info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    17/01/2004 10:38:42 info ******************** Report session started ********************
    ======================================================
    Notice in this version topo extract reads at 8x(works with Blindwrite Tweaker) and in the write process, the Plex Premium burns VariRec .
    Media topology will be reproduced by Varirate

    I can send this Blindwrite 5 version to you via email and can use HJ Split (split the file) and send via Outlook Express m8...Here's my BW5 log of Max Payne 2: The Fall Of Max Payne (USA version)= SecuROM 4.85 cd protected.
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    1/22/2004 3:13:22 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info Loaded read profile Automatic
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.19, Internal revision 19
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 5
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info ParamStr 0 = "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info Version 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info ExeName : "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/22/2004 3:13:19 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************
    1/22/2004 3:02:22 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/22/2004 3:02:19 AM info BWT 5 file contains topology data: Quality 83%
    1/22/2004 3:02:18 AM info Topology extraction completed in 01:12
    1/22/2004 3:02:18 AM info Topology extracted. Quality 83%
    1/22/2004 3:01:06 AM info Fast Topology: Max speed selected, x48 returned by device
    1/22/2004 3:01:06 AM info Topology extraction started
    1/22/2004 3:01:05 AM info Extraction successful in 02:21
    1/22/2004 2:58:44 AM info Free Space on destination path 26.7 Gb.
    1/22/2004 2:58:44 AM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [MP2_PLAY] - Image Size 738 Mb.
    1/22/2004 2:58:44 AM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1 and following
    1/22/2004 2:58:43 AM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - JLMS XJ-HD165H CH11 [D] (Ide)
    1/22/2004 2:58:43 AM info Extraction started
    1/22/2004 2:58:04 AM info Loaded read profile Automatic
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info Loaded write profile Automatic
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.19, Internal revision 19
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info Autoplay driver active. Version 5
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info ParamStr 0 = "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info Version 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info ExeName : "G:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
    1/22/2004 2:58:02 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/22/2004 2:58:01 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************
    ======================================================
    My Twinpeak fails to play in my Litey LTD 165H& Litey LDW-411S but I can get a working backup using Blindwrite Suite 4.5.7 very easily. "Old school rules"? ................

    Shoey :)



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    Shoey Guest

    According to VSO Blindwrite team member kamikazee, all must use Blindwrite Tweaker to make backups of SecuROM 4.85& up.(not good)

    Shoey :)
     
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    Forgot to cut&paste the write log :) My mind wasn't cooperating with me last night. Here goes:

    1/22/2004 10:20:29 AM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/22/2004 10:20:16 AM error Topology to be reproduced with Premium, but writing device is not premium. Write aborted.
    1/22/2004 10:20:16 AM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/22/2004 10:20:16 AM info Writing device : 2:1:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.04 [E] (Ide)
    1/22/2004 10:19:21 AM error Topology to be reproduced with Premium, but writing device is not premium. Write aborted.
    1/22/2004 10:19:21 AM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/22/2004 10:19:21 AM info Writing device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/22/2004 10:19:03 AM info BWT 5 file contains topology data: Quality 98%
    1/22/2004 10:18:52 AM info Loaded write profile Automatic
    1/22/2004 10:18:52 AM info Launched with external parameters
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.19, Internal revision 19
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info Version 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.0.127
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/22/2004 10:18:26 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************

    Very interesting logs, thank you. I'm not sure why it keeps saying my writers aren't premiums. Once again, I'm I missing something or is anyone else having this error that you know of? I would be very interested in trying 5.0.1.112 if you don't mind. I'll need to set up OE (never needed to use it till now) and will e-mail you when I get it going.

    It sure doesn't speak well for BW if they don't want to do anything about the topo speeds :( I'm getting 98% accuracy at max speed and am interested to know what improvement could be made at 8X.

    Thanks for all the helpful info. After getting a handle on duping DVDs I need a new quest!

    Take care
     
  13. Shoey

    Shoey Guest

    Ok this time launch Blindwrite Tweaker and in the Topo tab folder, select Automatic m8. I hope this works darn it.. (hehe) If Blindwrite burns the image then when all done, look at the BW5 log to see if your Plextor PX-708A burned "varirate(VariRec).

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  14. Nephilim

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    Got shot down again :( I used Tweaker to set topo to 'automatic' but it still wrote without 'varirate/varirec'. Disc was unplayable in my 166. Are others running into this with the newer versions of BW?

    Here's the log:

    1/23/2004 12:09:26 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/23/2004 12:09:08 PM info Write completed in 03:01
    1/23/2004 12:08:48 PM info Finalize started
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info Write started
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info Media topology will be embedded in Autoplay
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info DAO PW writing mode selected
    1/23/2004 12:06:07 PM info Writing speed required x40, effective x40
    1/23/2004 12:06:06 PM info DAO writing mode preferred
    1/23/2004 12:06:06 PM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 12:06:06 PM info Writing device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 12:04:25 PM info Topology extraction completed in 01:18
    1/23/2004 12:04:25 PM info Topology extracted. Quality 100%
    1/23/2004 12:03:07 PM info Fast Topology: Max speed selected, x40 returned by device
    1/23/2004 12:03:07 PM info Topology extraction started
    1/23/2004 12:03:06 PM info Extraction successful in 03:04
    1/23/2004 12:00:02 PM info Free Space on destination path 124 Gb.
    1/23/2004 12:00:02 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 12:00:02 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1 and following
    1/23/2004 12:00:02 PM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 12:00:02 PM info Extraction started
    1/23/2004 11:59:51 AM info Loaded copy profile Automatic
    1/23/2004 11:59:51 AM info Launched with external parameters
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.19, Internal revision 19
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info Version 5.1.0.127
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.0.127
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/23/2004 11:59:45 AM info ******************** Report session started ********************

    I forgot to knock the write speed down but it's kind of moot since it didn't use varirec anyway. Suggestions?
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  15. Nephilim

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    Here's the first with BW5.05.120. Everything went fine until it started to write. I got the 'not a premium' error then the entire programm errored out and closed :(


    Here's the log:

    1/23/2004 1:50:30 PM error Topology to be reproduced with Premium, but writing device is not premium. Write aborted.
    1/23/2004 1:50:30 PM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 1:50:30 PM info Writing device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 1:49:44 PM info Topology extraction completed in 07:28
    1/23/2004 1:42:15 PM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
    1/23/2004 1:42:15 PM info Topology extraction started
    1/23/2004 1:42:15 PM info Extraction successful in 04:08
    1/23/2004 1:38:08 PM info Free Space on destination path 124 Gb.
    1/23/2004 1:38:08 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 1:38:08 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    1/23/2004 1:38:07 PM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 1:38:07 PM info Extraction started
    1/23/2004 1:37:57 PM info Launched with external parameters
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.17, Internal revision 17
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info Version 5.0.5.120
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.5.120
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/23/2004 1:37:50 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************

    I'll try with my Premium next just for giggles and grins.
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    Houston, we have liftoff.

    My Premium made a successful copy of Postal 2 (SecuROM 4.84) that works perfectly in my LTD-166.

    I used BW5Tweaker to set the max read to 24X.

    1/23/2004 2:32:07 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/23/2004 2:31:55 PM info Write completed in 19:07
    1/23/2004 2:31:37 PM info Finalize started
    1/23/2004 2:12:48 PM info Write started
    1/23/2004 2:12:48 PM info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    1/23/2004 2:12:48 PM info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    1/23/2004 2:12:48 PM info DAO PW writing mode selected
    1/23/2004 2:12:47 PM info Writing speed required x4, effective x4
    1/23/2004 2:12:47 PM info DAO writing mode preferred
    1/23/2004 2:12:47 PM info Media topology will be reproduced by Varirate
    1/23/2004 2:12:47 PM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 2:12:47 PM info Writing device : 2:1:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [E] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 2:09:56 PM info Topology extraction completed in 07:08
    1/23/2004 2:02:48 PM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
    1/23/2004 2:02:48 PM info Topology extraction started
    1/23/2004 2:02:48 PM info Extraction successful in 04:11
    1/23/2004 1:58:37 PM info Free Space on destination path 124 Gb.
    1/23/2004 1:58:37 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [POSTAL2] - Image Size 749 Mb.
    1/23/2004 1:58:37 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    1/23/2004 1:58:36 PM info Reading device : 2:1:0 - PLEXTOR CD-R PREMIUM 1.05 [E] (Ide)
    1/23/2004 1:58:36 PM info Extraction started
    1/23/2004 1:58:05 PM info Launched with external parameters
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.17, Internal revision 17
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info Version 5.0.5.120
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.5.120
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/23/2004 1:57:58 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************

    It seems for whatever reason BW5 doesn't recognize the PX-708 as being 'varirate' capable. That's a damn shame too.
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  17. Shoey

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    Your log says your wrote varirate (VariRec) m8. So what exact settings did you use?
    Congrats Neph!

    As a test, could you kindly uninstall Blindwrite 5 5.05>reboot>install Blindwrite 5 5.1 and use the same settings and see if you can get a working backup m8? How many cd's to Postal 2?

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    My last log was for my Premium :) I tried the Premium because BW 5.05.120 kept giving me the 'writer not a premium' error when I tried it with my PX-708A.

    Postal 2 is a single disc.

    Here's what I've run into in a nutshell,

    BW 5.5.7: Failed topo extract on PX-708A, Premium and LTD-166S. I couldn't get anywhere with it.

    BW 5.1: Gave me the 'writer not a premium' error for both my PX-708A and my Premium.

    BW 5.05: Gave me the 'writer not a premium' error for the PX-708A, but made a perfect copy on my Premium (my last log).

    So basically 5.5 is useless because it can't even extract topo, 5.1 is useless because it won't use varirate with either of my Plextors, and 5.0 will only use varirate with my Premium and not the PX-708A.

    Where do we go from here, boss?
     
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    Hey Shoey, I just made a successful copy of Call Of Duty on my PX-708A. I used BW5.05 and BW5Tweaker with max read at 24X and max write at 4X.

    1/24/2004 8:50:41 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
    1/24/2004 8:50:29 PM info Write completed in 20:01
    1/24/2004 8:50:10 PM info Finalize started
    1/24/2004 8:30:28 PM info Write started
    1/24/2004 8:30:28 PM info Buffer Under-run protection is enabled
    1/24/2004 8:30:28 PM info Backup tagged for Autoplay
    1/24/2004 8:30:28 PM info DAO PW writing mode selected
    1/24/2004 8:30:28 PM info Writing speed required x4, effective x4
    1/24/2004 8:30:27 PM info DAO writing mode preferred
    1/24/2004 8:30:27 PM info Writing CD-ROM Disc [COD1] - Image Size 783 Mb.
    1/24/2004 8:30:27 PM info Writing device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/24/2004 8:29:56 PM info Media topology isn't required
    1/24/2004 8:29:56 PM info Extraction successful in 04:21
    1/24/2004 8:25:42 PM info Free Space on destination path 123 Gb.
    1/24/2004 8:25:42 PM info Reading CD-ROM Disc [COD1] - Image Size 783 Mb.
    1/24/2004 8:25:42 PM info Read data with subcodes PW for track 1
    1/24/2004 8:25:34 PM info Reading device : 2:0:0 - PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.04 [D] (Ide)
    1/24/2004 8:25:34 PM info Extraction started
    1/24/2004 8:25:31 PM info Launched with external parameters
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.17, Internal revision 17
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info Autoplay driver active. Version 4
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info ParamStr 2 = "J:\WINDOWS\bw5.ini"
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info ParamStr 1 = "/ini"
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info ParamStr 0 = "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info User default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info System default language : 1033 (0x0409h) - English (United States)
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info Version 5.0.5.120
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.0.5.120
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info ExeName : "J:\Program Files\VSO\BlindWrite5\bw.exe"
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
    1/24/2004 8:25:24 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************
     
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    Has anyone done any CD+G conversions or copying for back ups with this drive?
    If so please reply...
    I'd like to know!
     

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