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Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by drako17, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    I'll quote a few tom's hardware benchmarks.

    Battlefield 2142 @ 1920x1200 Max:
    X1950 Pro: 22.6
    8600GTS: 16.7
    8600GTS SLI: 24.4

    Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, 1920x1200 Max:
    X1950 pro: 20.3
    8600GTS: 9.5
    8600GTS SLI: 9.5 (Oh dear!)

    Doom 3 1600x1200 Max:
    X1950 Pro: 49.6
    8600GTS: 36.6
    8600GTS SLI: 78.0

    Flight Sim X 1920x1200 Max:
    X1950 pro: 14.6
    8600GTS: 17.2
    8600GTS SLI: 20.2

    Oblivion 1920x1200 Max:
    X1950 Pro: 10.8
    8600GTS: 8.6
    8600GTS SLI: 18.6

    The only game out of any of those that the pair of 8600s is worth it for is Oblivion. For any of the other titles you're better off with a 1950Pro. The 8600 fares better in Flight Sim X, but the SLI benefit is tiny, and on the whole a single 8600 can't compete with an X1950 pro.

    You could argue that the SLI pair gets a good score in Doom 3, but in truth, so does the X1950 pro, you would hardly notice the difference.

    Note that this benchmark uses the 256MB version of the 1950 pro.

    Spec lists will only get you so far...
     
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    oh ok so then its best if i get the 640mb or the 320mb 8800?
     
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    640MB version, without question. The 320MB version can't play Crysis properly at all, and that will go for many of the upcoming new games.

    However, you may wish to consider the 512MB 8800GT, a new product out, it has a lower power consumption, heat and noise level, and space requirement than the previous 8800s, and is faster than an 8800GTS in most games, in some cases equalling the GTX. It's also cheaper than the GTS.
     
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    thanks i kept tryin to decide what card i should get. ive made up my mind with your help.
     
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    Which is?
     
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    640MB 8800 gts overclocked. is priced at 400 dollars with shipping and handling. i can afford that and then next month ill get another one.
     
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    Don't bother with pre-overclocked cards, just overclock them yourself and save the money...
     
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    well i aint experienced in overclocking. i wouldnt want to damage my card. i mean its already good like that. isnt it?
     
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    Yeah, to be honest, graphics overclocks aren't usually that great from the manufacturers so it'll make little difference. The only reason to get them is that they sometimes have better coolers than the standard versions.
     
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    well the price for the standard one is ten dollars less than the overclocked one. also could it be the temps on the computer that cause it to slow down? i mean we play for hours at a time. the fans are all stocked on the computers. is there a program that can show me the temps?
     
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    Yep, Everest is the most comprehensive one, but using Speedfan and Atitool together will bag you pretty much all of the temps, and they're both free, Everest isn't.
     
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    i know alot about the internet. im downloading it as we speak. i love having resorces. how will i know if its the temps?
     
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    Your CPU shouldn't be above 55C in games (preferably below 50)
    Your Motherboard shouldn't be above 45C
    Your hard disks shouldn't be above 50C (this won't affect your game speed however, it's just a fact)
    Your Graphics card core shouldn't be above 95C, preferably well under, but X1950 Pro cards get hot, they're meant to
    Your Graphics card VREGs shouldn't exceed 100C.
    Your Graphics card ambient shouldn't exceed the 75C mark or so.
     
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    one other question. should i swap the x1950 pro to my dell 410 and put the 7900 gs in the dell 4700? would that help out a little?
     
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    Nope, they perform similarly, and you can't compensate for CPU performance by upping the graphics card. Think of the 'A chain is only as strong as its weakest link' idea.
     
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    on the dell 410 the temp for the gpu is at 59 on idle. im only on the internet. is that good or bad
     
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    That's about average, not much to be concerned about, it's what it gets to under load that ultimately matters, the idle temperature just gives you an idea of what the load temperature will be.
     
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    ok i found the problem. you where right it is my friends computer. the processor is at 80-100 percent when in use. no not the temp the temp is at 50 60. no the less im going to tell my friend that ill help him build a better compute and to get rid of this one. how much would i be able to sell the dell 4700 for? give me your opinion. thanks
     
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    I'm afraid I couldn't tell you that. Not only have I never sold a PC, but I also don't live in the US, I don't know what the market's like.
    However, I can tell you that my CPU is also kept at around 70% in supreme commander, that's the case with most CPUs.
     
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    hey i just read of a 8800 gt 512mb. what do you think of that one? its says its better than the 8800gts 640
     

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