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Problem Burning DVDs with Phillips DVD8801

Discussion in 'DVD Shrink forum' started by JayDell1, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. JayDell1

    JayDell1 Member

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    Hi Everyone,

    I have just started using my Dell to burn DVDs. I have been successfully burning CDs for a while but usually burn my DVDs at work. Anyways, I used DVDshrink to backup a DVD and I wanted to burn it.

    Unfortunalty the burn fails and log reports some problems. I am unalbe to figure out whit it is not working.

    Some info:
    Nero: 6.3.0.3
    Philips DVD+-RW DVD8801 Burner
    Windows XP
    Media: Verbatim DVD+R DL 8.5GB (I'm not sure how to tell the speed?)

    I have tried two different DVDs with no success. I have included the log from Nero. Should I be trying to upgrade Nero, install and new driver for my DVD burner.

    Any suggestions on how to proceed or any additional information to capture in order to debug would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Jay

    ### Output log:
    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 7/6/2006 5:35:17 AM
    Nero version: 6.3.0.3
    Recorder: <PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801> Version: 2D06 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.3.0.3
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 >Version: FDS2 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HD160JJ/P iaStor Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 D: CDRom0
    PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (83886080) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 2047MB (2097151kB)
    Free physical memory: 2047MB (2097151kB)
    Memory in use : 23 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    17.2.2007
    Burn DVD Image
    10:00:27 PM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    10:00:27 PM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
    Writer PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 running

    10:00:27 PM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    10:00:27 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
    Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286049 (508:00.49, 4464MB)

    10:00:27 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    10:00:27 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
    Recorder: PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801, Media type: DVD+R9 Dual Layer

    10:00:27 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    10:00:27 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286050 (2286050) = #2286050/508:0.50
    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286050 blocks [PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    10:00:27 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
    Prepare recorder [PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681830400, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2286050 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    10:00:27 PM #10 Phase 28 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Speed measurement started

    10:00:27 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    10:02:09 PM #12 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
    <PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8801 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286050 (22E1E2h), lenght 0 blocks

    10:02:09 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    10:02:09 PM #14 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    10:02:09 PM #15 Phase 29 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1751
    Speed measurement completed: 33x (45,656 KB/s)

    10:02:09 PM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)

    10:02:09 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    10:02:09 PM #18 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
    Set remaining time: 14:10,251 (850251ms) -> OK

    10:02:09 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
    Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode

    10:02:09 PM #20 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19487
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    10:02:09 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    10:02:09 PM #22 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1171
    SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x032D6000
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

    10:02:09 PM #23 CDR -1066 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Invalid field in command

    10:02:09 PM #24 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

    10:02:09 PM #25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    10:02:09 PM #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 2:07:32 PM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 10/26/2005 3:12:48 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
  2. garmoon

    garmoon Regular member

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    Are you using a program to remove encryptions? If you are then I see you are using DL discs. The best program for doing those expensive +R DLs is ImgBurn (free). get it here and read the guides. Works well with AnyDvd.

    LOCOENG's Abstraction
    Imgburn-
    http://www.imgburn.com

    Guides:

    Burning DVD Video files directly to double layer media with ImgBurn
    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

    Creating a single layer ISO on your hard drive using ImgBurn
    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1778

    Creating a double layer ISO on your hard drive using ImgBurn
    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1777

    ImgBurn Build Mode, An Overview
    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1779
     
  3. JayDell1

    JayDell1 Member

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I wasn't using any program to remove encryption initially. I wasn't sure how to tell when I needed to do this. (I'm a newbie to DVD burning). I am aware of DVDFab for example but was able to do the first DVD I wanted to backup with just DVDshrink. I DVDshrink being successful means I did not need encryption removed (how do I tell when it has encryption to remove?)

    Just using the DL disks because that's what I have on hand. What would you reccomend for general use? Single sided, certain brand or speed?

    Thanks for letting me know about ImgBurn. I downloaded and trying the "Read" function to create an image-using the burner drive. Then I will try to burn. (It's still reading)

    Becaue it was closer, I grabbed another DVD first and tried to "Read" it and create an image. I recieved a popup with the following almost immediatly. I tried it with both drives on my system. Does this mention of authentificaiton mean I need to use a program to remove encryption first for this DVD?

    I/O Error!
    Device:[0:1:0] PHILLIPS DVD etc..
    ScsiStatus: 0x02
    Interpretation:Check Condition
    Sense Area:[a bunch of hex here]
    Interpretation:Read of Scrambled Sector without Authentificaiton

    Will try the burn once the read is completed. I'll repost shortly to let you know how it goes.

    Thanks.
     
  4. PacMan777

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    About all of the factory movie DVDs are encrypted and copy protected nowadays. Some more so than others. Shrink includes outdated decryption software as part of the program and can do some but not others. To be sure, use a decryption tool such as RipIt4Me. If I remember correctly Nero 6 didn't support dual layer burning till late in the series and then not well. If you're going to use Nero, I suggest Nero 7. For dual layer though, all you need to do is set up and use RipIt4Me to copy the decrypted and processed files to the hard drive and use ImgBurn. That way you don't need to invest in more software and what you get is as good as the retail offerings for what they do.
     
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  5. JayDell1

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    Thank you both for your replies.

    That makes sense with the DL support becaue I tried but was not able to burn a data disk either with Nero.

    So using the instructions for ImgBurn in those links, I was able to use to "Build" a "Dual Layer ISO" image with a little work. I use "Write" mode burned it and it works!

    So, I'll look into upgrading my Nero (which should give me DL support right?) but for now I have the option to stick with ImgBurn for DL disks. Each time I'll just get in the habit of using RipIt4Me first-thank you for that info. I'll assume the popup message in my previous post was ImgBurn telling me that there was encryption on that DVD.

    Since I'm still new to this. Could someone tell me (or point me somewhere to read) on what media I should be using to backup my DVDs? Brand, speed, Single layer? I'll save the $$ and not use my DLs each time. Will pick some up tomorrow.



     
  6. PacMan777

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    Sony DVD +R, doesn't matter if they're made in Japan or Taiwan, both are good. Normally you'd find the latest on the shelves 16X. For video you only want to burn 4X to 8X. If your drive supports it, booktype to DVD ROM. ImgBurn has a speed control. Verbatim is usually a good option as well. With transcoding programs such as Shrink you shrink the output from RipItMe to fit a DVD5 (4.7). Shrink supports your Nero 6 to burn to DVD5 with no problems. If you replace the exe file in DVD Shrink (Program Files on C:) with the exe file from this download, it will also support ImgBurn instead of the older DVD Decrypter burner.
    http://www.digital-digest.com/software/download.php?sid=423&ssid=0&did=7
    Instructions included. You've already got Shrink installed, so go from there.
     
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    Thank you very much.
     
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    You're welcome.
     
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    I tried the link and it doesn't appear to take me to the final location?

    "If you replace the exe file in DVD Shrink (Program Files on C:) with the exe file from this download, it will also support ImgBurn instead of the older DVD Decrypter burner."
    http://www.digital-digest.com/software/d...23&ssid=0&did=7

    Could you let me know what to search from this URL. Maybe that will work better: http://www.digital-digest.com/software/

    So changing the .exe will support being able to burn with ImgBurn?

    I should be thinking for my approach to use either:
    RipIt4Me, DVDshrink, Nero6
    or
    RipIt4Me, DVDshrink (updated .exe) and ImgBurn?

    Burning 4x of 8x on 16x discs should be fine right? I don't need to go looking for 8x discs?

    I found the Read/Write Speed 4x, 8x on ImgBurn

    Finally, what did you mean by "If your drive supports it, booktype to DVD ROM." does this just mean the output of RipIt4Me (booktype) directly to DVD ROM.

    Thanks again.



     
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    The link in my post is working. The site was a little slow loading it. Here's what you're looking for:

    [​IMG]

    Booktyping makes +R media more compatible, google and you'll find a ton of information on it.

     
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    I'm still trying to download image burn update. The site is slow overall but the download keeps timing out. I looked for it elsewhere on the web but no luck. I'll keep trying: (http://files.dvdr-digest.com/encode/DVD_Shrink_3_2_b_w_IB.zip)

    I read up on Booktyping too as you suggested; I get it now.

    I picked up some Sony DVD+R today so I'm ready to go!

    From more reading I gather there is a DVD5 (single layer format)and a DVD9 format (DL). As you said before, with a program like Shrink, we are transcoding the double-layer DVD movie to a DVD5 format for Nero/ImgBurn to be able to write to DVD+R. That is the reason we need the Shrink program. (sound about right? Please correct me if wrong)

    Still have a few questions...things I'm not straight on.

    1. Assuming encryption has been removed (RipIt4Me), do I still always need to use "shrink" to transcode to DVD5. Or does ImgBurn or Nero have the ability to do this too? Or do certain decryptor programs also do this?

    2. If answer to #1 is yes, is DVDshrink the prefered app to do this since it is older? So far I have been making ISOs with Shrink and burning them. We'll see how the update does with burning from Shrink to ImgBurn.

    3. Any reason I wouldn't just use ImgBurn only from now on and not Nero?

    4. When do I run into having to burn DVD9 format? In this post I've already done the excersise of getting a DVD5 on my DL media.

    Is DVD9 dependant on the lenght of the movie or amount of data on the original DVD-ROM? Something to do with the formal of the DVD-ROM? Will there be a time when I Shrink and cannot fit the transcoded DVD-ROM content on DVD-5 format(media DVD+R)?

    5. Are commercially pressed DVD-ROMs actually DVD9 format or does DVD9 just refer to the DL DVD R media? I've been reading for a little while now and can't seem to find this answer.

    Thank you again so much.
     
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    I got the update, just walked away and retried again later.
     
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    You should start browsing the glossary here at AD. DVD5 is the commercial 4.7GB disc. DVD DL or DVD9 are dual layer discs. For burning DL you have to have a DL capable burner. DVD9 holds 8.5GB. Factory DVDs can be DVD5 or DVD9 depending on what's needed to hold the content. Factory DVD ROM discs are pressed, not burned. If I overlooked something, just ask.

    1. Assuming encryption has been removed (RipIt4Me), do I still always need to use "shrink" to transcode to DVD5. Or does ImgBurn or Nero have the ability to do this too? Or do certain decryptor programs also do this?
    Depends on size. Anything less than 4.37GB will fit to a DVD5 withoug transcoding (shrinking). Nero has a program named Recode that transcodes and burns. ImgBurn only burns, so the content has to fit the media, DVD5 or DVD9.

    2. If answer to #1 is yes, is DVDshrink the prefered app to do this since it is older? So far I have been making ISOs with Shrink and burning them. We'll see how the update does with burning from Shrink to ImgBurn.
    DVD Shrink is a good freeware, possibly the best. For best quality you need an encoder. Read about Rebuilder.

    3. Any reason I wouldn't just use ImgBurn only from now on and not Nero?
    Just for burning Shrink output it doesn't matter. However, there's more to the Nero suite than a simple burner.

    4. When do I run into having to burn DVD9 format? In this post I've already done the excersise of getting a DVD5 on my DL media.
    DL is for doing content over 4.37 that you don't want compressed. Less than 4.37GBB and you're wasting money on DL media. The vast majority of my DVD backups are on DVD5.

    Is DVD9 dependant on the lenght of the movie or amount of data on the original DVD-ROM? Yes, previously covered this. Something to do with the formal of the DVD-ROM? Content. Will there be a time when I Shrink and cannot fit the transcoded DVD-ROM content on DVD-5 format(media DVD+R)? If the job is done properly it should fit. Most people who have encoders use those when compression dips below 75%. With transcoders things start getting flaky in the 50%-60% range. You have to watch how much you try to compress. With experience you'll see the difference.
    5. Are commercially pressed DVD-ROMs actually DVD9 format or does DVD9 just refer to the DL DVD R media? Both. You'll see people using DVD9, DL, and DVD DL interchangably. I've been reading for a little while now and can't seem to find this answer.
     
  14. JayDell1

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    The fog is starting to clear. It's time for me to do some more reading and experimenting. Thank you again for your detailed responses on this post.

    I'm off to have fun making DVDs and using my burner properly now!
     
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    You're welcome.
     

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