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problems backing up dvd with nero recode 2

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by kinza, Aug 21, 2004.

  1. kinza

    kinza Regular member

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    I wanted to backup a dvd with Nero Recode 2 and then burn it onto another disk with Nero. The first attempt, about halfway through the burn Nero says there is a problem with the sound. I try it again same thing. I opened it up with Shrink and there is a cyclic redundancy error. As I have read in previous posts that specific problem is because the disk is damaged. This error for me occured while already copying onto the hard drive. Is it the same problem in both instances? Thanks in advance.
     
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    kinza Regular member

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    I posted my problem above. Can someone please help?
     
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    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi,

    Can you post a Nero log (without the serial of course)?
     
  4. Doc409

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    kinza...like Nephilim suggested, a burn log would be great. Something else you might try is dl'g DVD InfoPro (freeware). Use the icon with the pencil. It will tell you if there are any errors on your source DVD.

    http://www.dvdinfopro.com/
     
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    And if you have not already done so, try cleaning the source DVD You are trying to copy, and check for any obvious damage.

    And use the Nero DriveSpeed utility to slow down the read speed of the DVD-ROM drive you are using. Or better yet, use your recorder to read the source disc and slow down it's read speed as Recorders usually do a better job of extracting.

    Regards,

    Craig
     
  6. kinza

    kinza Regular member

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    Here is the Nero log:

    Version: 2.1.1.18

    Project type: Copy entire DVD
    Target size: DVD5 (2282925)

    Burn settings:
    Target: Hard disk folder
    Number of copies: 1
    Target folder: C:\Documents and Settings\password is kinza\My Documents\DVD Files\s (58525298688 bytes free)
    Shutdown when finished: false
    Advanced Analysis: false
    Compress Adaptive: false

    12:44:54 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
    Compile DVD: init

    VMG Menus Vobs [45 vobus] 0.72MB -> 0.52MB [R 0.00]
    Video: 0.43MB, extra: 0.09MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_01 Menus Vobs [1860 vobus] 534.21MB -> 281.34MB [R 0.00]
    Video: 254.08MB, extra: 27.26MB
    Audio: 1 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch Unspecified 21.81MB [enabled]
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 1.82MB [enabled]

    VTS_01 Title Vobs [16826 vobus] 7503.84MB -> 4168.64MB [R 0.36]
    Video: 3463.09MB, extra: 705.55MB
    Audio: 4 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch English 462.17MB [enabled]
    1. 1. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 197.83MB [enabled]
    2. 2. DTS 5.1-ch English 778.75MB [disabled]
    3. 3. Dolby Digital 5.1-ch French 396.01MB [disabled]
    Subpicture: 4 streams
    0. 0. English 12.68MB [enabled]
    1. 1. Spanish 4.48MB [disabled]
    2. 2. French 4.07MB [disabled]
    3. 3. French 0.00MB [disabled]

    VTS_02 Menus Vobs [1 vobus] 0.01MB -> 0.01MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.01MB, extra: 0.00MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_02 Title Vobs [40 vobus] 11.84MB -> 2.21MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.00MB, extra: 2.21MB
    Audio: 2 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.00MB [disabled]
    1. 1. DTS 5.1-ch English 0.00MB [disabled]
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    VTS_03 Menus Vobs [1 vobus] 0.01MB -> 0.01MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.01MB, extra: 0.00MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_03 Title Vobs [46 vobus] 13.70MB -> 2.55MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.00MB, extra: 2.55MB
    Audio: 1 streams
    0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 0.00MB [disabled]
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    VTS_04 Menus Vobs [1 vobus] 0.01MB -> 0.01MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.01MB, extra: 0.00MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_04 Title Vobs [17 vobus] 1.05MB -> 0.91MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.00MB, extra: 0.91MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    VTS_05 Menus Vobs [1 vobus] 0.01MB -> 0.01MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.01MB, extra: 0.00MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 1 streams
    0. 0. Unspecified 0.00MB [enabled]

    VTS_05 Title Vobs [41 vobus] 7.91MB -> 2.27MB [not compressable]
    Video: 0.00MB, extra: 2.27MB
    Audio: 0 streams
    Subpicture: 0 streams

    12:45:00 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1153
    Compile DVD: begin copy 1

    12:45:00 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 122
    Writing to harddrive folder started

    12:45:00 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 480
    Compile DVD: burning 2282925 sectors (2282925 required)

    12:45:00 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 525
    Compiling DVD Volume started

    12:45:01 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1059
    Compile DVD: finished VMG Menus Vobs

    VMG Menus Vobs:
    Original 0.72MB -> Expected 0.52MB -> Output 0.52MB
    Finished error 0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 0
    Original encoded = 38
    Slide encoded = 7
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 0.09MB
    Source video size = 0.63MB
    Pictures Modified [I 36] [P 0] [B 0]

    12:47:00 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1059
    Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Menus Vobs

    VTS_01 Menus Vobs:
    Original 534.21MB -> Expected 281.34MB -> Output 281.34MB
    Finished error 0.00MB
    Ratio encoded = 1860
    Original encoded = 0
    Slide encoded = 0
    StillImage encoded = 0
    Output extra size = 25.61MB
    Source video size = 508.60MB
    Pictures Modified [I 1889] [P 7543] [B 18486]

    13:03:04 File NeroRecorder.cpp, Line 589
    Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB

    13:09:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 382
    Failed to read from file.

    13:09:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 383
    Compiling DVD volume failed

    13:09:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 300
    Compile DVD: exit

    13:09:30 File burner.cpp, Line 875
    Failed to read from file.

    I just need to know if the problem is because of the DVD or my burner. My DVD is scratched numerous times and I can admit that it is in bad shape, but I have burned worse. Thanks for your help.
     
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    kinza Regular member

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    I was using the Nero InfoTool and when I went to the ASPI tab, under ASPI installation and System ASPI, on the bottom it says that ASPI installation is corrupted. I recently upgraded my firmware from an Afterdawn suggested website, does this have anything to do with it?
     
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    If you want to know if any disc is readable, run it through DVD InfoPro. What did it tell you on this scratched DVD?

    Most of the time a corrupted ASPI will cause problems. I don't think upgrading your firmware should corrupt the ASPI.
     
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    Do you want me to go to the DVD read error test?
     
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    Thanks for the help with the ASPI stuff, it is now correctly functioning. Here is part of the DVD Error check report, I stopped in the middle because I thought I got a good idea of how many scratches there are on the disk.

    Drive - _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A
    Media ID Code -
    Media Type - DVD-ROM
    Read Error list
    1. Error - LBA = 00193870h
    2. Error - LBA = 00193871h
    3. Error - LBA = 00193872h
    4. Error - LBA = 00193873h
    5. Error - LBA = 00193874h
    6. Error - LBA = 00193875h
    7. Error - LBA = 00193876h
    8. Error - LBA = 00193877h
    9. Error - LBA = 00193878h
    10. Error - LBA = 00193879h
    11. Error - LBA = 0019387ah
    12. Error - LBA = 0019387bh
    13. Error - LBA = 0019387ch
    14. Error - LBA = 0019387dh
    15. Error - LBA = 0019387eh
    16. Error - LBA = 0019387fh
    17. Error - LBA = 001938a0h
    18. Error - LBA = 001938a1h
    19. Error - LBA = 001938a2h
    20. Error - LBA = 001938a3h
    21. Error - LBA = 001938a4h
    22. Error - LBA = 001938a5h
    23. Error - LBA = 001938a6h
    24. Error - LBA = 001938a7h
    25. Error - LBA = 001938a8h
    26. Error - LBA = 001938a9h
    27. Error - LBA = 001938aah
    28. Error - LBA = 001938abh
    29. Error - LBA = 001938ach
    30. Error - LBA = 001938adh
    31. Error - LBA = 001938aeh
    32. Error - LBA = 001938afh
    33. Error - LBA = 001938e0h
    34. Error - LBA = 001938e1h
    35. Error - LBA = 001938e2h
    36. Error - LBA = 001938e3h
    37. Error - LBA = 001938e4h
    38. Error - LBA = 001938e5h
    39. Error - LBA = 001938e6h
    40. Error - LBA = 001938e7h
    41. Error - LBA = 001938e8h
    42. Error - LBA = 001938e9h
    43. Error - LBA = 001938eah
    44. Error - LBA = 001938ebh
    45. Error - LBA = 001938ech
    46. Error - LBA = 001938edh
    47. Error - LBA = 001938eeh
    48. Error - LBA = 001938efh
    49. Error - LBA = 00193950h
    50. Error - LBA = 00193951h
    51. Error - LBA = 00193952h
    52. Error - LBA = 00193953h
    53. Error - LBA = 00193954h
    54. Error - LBA = 00193955h
    55. Error - LBA = 00193956h
    56. Error - LBA = 00193957h
    57. Error - LBA = 00193958h
    58. Error - LBA = 00193959h
    59. Error - LBA = 0019395ah
    60. Error - LBA = 0019395bh
    61. Error - LBA = 0019395ch
    62. Error - LBA = 0019395dh
    63. Error - LBA = 0019395eh
    64. Error - LBA = 0019395fh
    65. Error - LBA = 00193990h
    66. Error - LBA = 00193991h
    67. Error - LBA = 00193992h
    68. Error - LBA = 00193a00h
    69. Error - LBA = 00193a01h
    70. Error - LBA = 00193a02h
    71. Error - LBA = 00193a40h
    72. Error - LBA = 00193a41h
    73. Error - LBA = 00193a42h
    74. Error - LBA = 00193a43h
    75. Error - LBA = 00193a44h
    76. Error - LBA = 00193a45h
    77. Error - LBA = 00193a46h
    78. Error - LBA = 00193a47h
    79. Error - LBA = 00193a48h
    80. Error - LBA = 00193a49h
    81. Error - LBA = 00193a4ah
    82. Error - LBA = 00193a4bh
    83. Error - LBA = 00193a4ch
    84. Error - LBA = 00193a4dh
    85. Error - LBA = 00193a4eh
    86. Error - LBA = 00193a4fh
    87. Error - LBA = 00193ab0h
    88. Error - LBA = 00193ab1h
    89. Error - LBA = 00193ab2h
    90. Error - LBA = 00193ab3h
    91. Error - LBA = 00193ab4h
    92. Error - LBA = 00193ab5h
    93. Error - LBA = 00193ab6h
    94. Error - LBA = 00193ab7h
    95. Error - LBA = 00193ab8h
    96. Error - LBA = 00193ab9h
    97. Error - LBA = 00193abah
    98. Error - LBA = 00193abbh
    99. Error - LBA = 00193abch
    100. Error - LBA = 00193abdh
    101. Error - LBA = 00193abeh
    102. Error - LBA = 00193abfh
    103. Error - LBA = 00193af0h
    104. Error - LBA = 00193af1h
    105. Error - LBA = 00193af2h
    106. Error - LBA = 00193af3h
    107. Error - LBA = 00193af4h
    108. Error - LBA = 00193af5h
    109. Error - LBA = 00193af6h
    110. Error - LBA = 00193af7h
    111. Error - LBA = 00193af8h
    112. Error - LBA = 00193af9h
    113. Error - LBA = 00193afah
    114. Error - LBA = 00193afbh
    115. Error - LBA = 00193afch
    116. Error - LBA = 00193afdh
    117. Error - LBA = 00193afeh
    118. Error - LBA = 00193affh
    119. Error - LBA = 00193b60h
    120. Error - LBA = 00193b61h
    121. Error - LBA = 00193b62h
    122. Error - LBA = 00193b63h
    123. Error - LBA = 00193b64h
    124. Error - LBA = 00193b65h
    125. Error - LBA = 00193b66h
    126. Error - LBA = 00193b67h
    127. Error - LBA = 00193b68h
    128. Error - LBA = 00193b69h
    129. Error - LBA = 00193b6ah
    130. Error - LBA = 00193b6bh
    131. Error - LBA = 00193b6ch
    132. Error - LBA = 00193b6dh
    133. Error - LBA = 00193b6eh
    134. Error - LBA = 00193b6fh
    135. Error - LBA = 00193ba0h
    136. Error - LBA = 00193ba1h
    137. Error - LBA = 00193ba2h
    138. Error - LBA = 00193ba3h
    139. Error - LBA = 00193ba4h
    140. Error - LBA = 00193ba5h
    141. Error - LBA = 00193ba6h
    142. Error - LBA = 00193ba7h
    143. Error - LBA = 00193ba8h
    144. Error - LBA = 00193ba9h
    145. Error - LBA = 00193baah
    146. Error - LBA = 00193babh
    147. Error - LBA = 00193bach
    148. Error - LBA = 00193badh
    149. Error - LBA = 00193baeh
    150. Error - LBA = 00193bafh
    151. Error - LBA = 00193c10h
    152. Error - LBA = 00193c11h
    153. Error - LBA = 00193c12h
    154. Error - LBA = 00193c13h
    155. Error - LBA = 00193c14h
    156. Error - LBA = 00193c15h
    157. Error - LBA = 00193c16h
    158. Error - LBA = 00193c17h
    159. Error - LBA = 00193c18h
    160. Error - LBA = 00193c19h
    161. Error - LBA = 00193c1ah
    162. Error - LBA = 00193c1bh
    163. Error - LBA = 00193c1ch
    164. Error - LBA = 00193c1dh
    165. Error - LBA = 00193c1eh
    166. Error - LBA = 00193c1fh
    167. Error - LBA = 00193c80h
    168. Error - LBA = 00193c81h
    169. Error - LBA = 00193c82h
    170. Error - LBA = 00193c83h
    171. Error - LBA = 00193c84h
    172. Error - LBA = 00193c85h
    173. Error - LBA = 00193c86h
    174. Error - LBA = 00193c87h
    175. Error - LBA = 00193c88h
    176. Error - LBA = 00193c89h
    177. Error - LBA = 00193c8ah
    178. Error - LBA = 00193c8bh
    179. Error - LBA = 00193c8ch
    180. Error - LBA = 00193c8dh
    181. Error - LBA = 00193c8eh
    182. Error - LBA = 00193c8fh
    183. Error - LBA = 00193cc0h
    184. Error - LBA = 00193cc1h
    185. Error - LBA = 00193cc2h
    186. Error - LBA = 00193cc3h
    187. Error - LBA = 00193cc4h
    188. Error - LBA = 00193cc5h
    189. Error - LBA = 00193cc6h
    190. Error - LBA = 00193cc7h
    191. Error - LBA = 00193cc8h
    192. Error - LBA = 00193cc9h
    193. Error - LBA = 00193ccah
    194. Error - LBA = 00193ccbh
    195. Error - LBA = 00193ccch
    196. Error - LBA = 00193ccdh
    197. Error - LBA = 00193cceh
    198. Error - LBA = 00193ccfh
    199. Error - LBA = 00193d30h
    200. Error - LBA = 00193d31h
    201. Error - LBA = 00193d32h
    202. Error - LBA = 00193d33h
    203. Error - LBA = 00193d34h
    204. Error - LBA = 00193d35h
    205. Error - LBA = 00193d36h
    206. Error - LBA = 00193d37h
    207. Error - LBA = 00193d38h
    208. Error - LBA = 00193d39h
    209. Error - LBA = 00193d3ah
    210. Error - LBA = 00193d3bh
    211. Error - LBA = 00193d3ch
    212. Error - LBA = 00193d3dh
    213. Error - LBA = 00193d3eh
    214. Error - LBA = 00193d3fh
    215. Error - LBA = 00193d70h
    216. Error - LBA = 00193d71h
    217. Error - LBA = 00193d72h
    218. Error - LBA = 00193d73h
    219. Error - LBA = 00193d74h
    220. Error - LBA = 00193d75h
    221. Error - LBA = 00193d76h
    222. Error - LBA = 00193d77h
    223. Error - LBA = 00193d78h
    224. Error - LBA = 00193d79h
    225. Error - LBA = 00193d7ah
    226. Error - LBA = 00193d7bh
    227. Error - LBA = 00193d7ch
    228. Error - LBA = 00193d7dh
    229. Error - LBA = 00193d7eh
    230. Error - LBA = 00193d7fh
     
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    I think it is safe to say that you have a few read errors. :). How important is this DVD to you, i.e., can it be replaced? Normally scratches can be polished out with a device called Skip Doctor. Here's a review. I think it costs around $30.

    http://www.cdr-zone.com/review/18/c...don't-ditch-that-damaged-disc--doctor-it.html

    I have also found some reading tools more sensitive than others. The best ripper I have found is Smartripper. You can dl it here at AD. Use "Backup" mode after you point to the destination folder. If it gets through the DVD without any red warnings, you will be able to burn the output.
     
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    I would rather just replace the disk which is probably only $10 now. I have to mention that when I used Shrink it read the DVD fine, but in the middle of the burn it just stopped. I think it is safe to say that the media is causing this problem, right?
     
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    Yes, the media is causing the problem. Not all readers are created equal, though. Here is what I've found from my own experience:

    Shrink - good
    Decrypter - better
    Smartripper - best

     
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    I felt that SmartRipper's interface wasn't too user-friendly. Thanks for your help. For copying the DVD to my hard drive I was using DVD43 and Nero Recode 2, it was my first time with that program so it didn't seem that good when I encountered problems. Usually I use Shrink but sometimes I use Decrypter and then Shrink. Thanks again Doc409.
     
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    Smartripper has a lot of features that aren't needed, and it clouds the picture. All you really have to do to use it is to point to a destination folder, and click on the Backup tab, and then press Start.
     

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