I found a SCPH-50001 with no accessories (but a network adaptor) for $62. I've been considering getting a "fat" PS2 so that I could run Hd-Advance and this seems like a decent chance. I already have a network adaptor but I could sell mine for 15 bucks or so on Ebay and make up some of that money. I already have a slim PS2 so I don't need more accessories anyway. My questions are A: Is this about as good a price as I'm going to find? and B: Is this a good version of the PS2 to get if I'm mainly intending to use HD-Advance?