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PS3 blu-ray drive dead

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by PsiLizard, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. oxbullsey

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    Yeah. That was my doing. I mailed a few sellers on fleabay and heard back from a few of them. After I paid $10 + $7 Priority for one, that guy listed 3 of them for $10 and free standard shipping. Not complaining too much, since I wanted the magnet for this past weekend, which came right on time as expected.

    In any case I popped the magnet on, and the unit worked great on Saturday, although I couldn't run a full blown torture test. Sunday night I was finally able to. Been running Gone in 60 Seconds for 14 hours now. I'm confident that this thing will work gracefully, and I can finally get the RB export license.
     
  3. oxbullsey

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    Right on! Thanks for making the effort, I'm sure it will help someone else out, too :)

    Glad to hear your system is finally working again as well, grats!
     
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    OK so I have been reading almost every page of this issue and have decided to try a fix a 40gb ps3.
    I bough it off ebay and it is enroute to me.
    If I do determine that the laser is the issue (which is what was advertised in the ebay listing) and opt to buy the correct laser I have just a few questions.

    What site has everyone had the best luck with when purchasing a replacement laser?

    Is everyone buying JUST the laser or the laser with the deck?

    I have seen on several sites that the install is much easier with the deck since there is no calibration? can this be confirmed?

    I have modded systems before buy never really played with the laser of the drive before. Not worried about doing so but just want to buy a GOOD laser the first time and if it costs a little extra for the deck to make things easier I will do that.

    Thanks

    Ediamonds

     
  5. me262

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    Both of mine I have replaced the entire laser assembly (laser + deck).
    The deck is just four screws (along with rubber shock absorbers).

    Both of mine I've gotten from ebay from Hong Kong sellers. One in a box, the other came in the black plastic container.

    You do pay a higher price for the deck, but I say it's worth it, because you don't have to tinker around with the actual laser. Another added bonus is that it's already pre-assembled and ready to be replaced. You're paying for that part to be done for you, and aligned properly, and making sure it's the right laser. If you think you have the ca hones* to do just the laser, more power to you. I stick with the decks because it's a more complete solution.

    I'd definitely look at a few youtube videos to see how to open and disassemble. Not all of them go all the way though.
    Keep your PS2 around. I believe the 40GB (at least mine) didn't have any PS2 backward compatibility.
    Be sure to get the correct laser type. 400A is the single laser, 410A is the twin design. A good test before opening would be to test on a DVD/CD (the twin design will play this fine, it did on mine), and a blu-ray disc (which this may only last a short while, and will knock out both lasers for a while once it takes a dive).

    Good luck!

    * When climbing up a glass dome, take the jet pack, not the super glue. If you must use the super glue, don't grab your crotch.
     
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    I'm not sure about the 400a's blue ray dying taking out the DVD as well, although I suppose it's a possiblity.

    If your 40GB has a manufacture date before Jan 08, I believe you'll need the 400A, if it's the newer deck than you'll probably have the dual laser 410A.

    I've replaced both the entire deck and also just the laser assembly. The laser assembly was a little more work, but it wasn't so much more to make it not worth doing, it all depends on your confidence with small tools :)

    If you do decide to replace just the laser, you only need to take one rail off (the side with two eyelets). The other best hint I can give you is to make sure you have a small phillips screwdriver with a light magnet, those little screws have a habit of jumping over the side and down into the bottom.

    Before you rip anything apart, though, test the deck to make sure the laser is actually dead. Stranger things have happened. Try an audio CD, a DVD and a blue ray disk as well. Also, make a note of where the label is when you put a disk in, make sure it isn't coming out in the exactly the same orientation (ie, the drive is spinning disks). That's what I'm currently battling and haven't had much success with it yet.

    Good luck, it's fun for sure (and both satisfying and frustrating).
     
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    That was my theory that seems to hold. The dual laser, while the blu-ray one dies, the regular red laser still works. The single one, once one is gone, it's all gone. This would also make sense for the 400A failure rates, as the laser is being used all the time (instead of switching between the two).

    The one thing I've done is to go as far as to take off the cover of the BD-ROM. You have to see what type the laser is anyway if it needs replacing. Just put the black lid back on, stick in a disc, and test it out.

    Screw shopping today... fun fun.
     
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    What screws are you in need of?
     
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    "before you rip anything apart, though, test the deck to make sure the laser is actually dead. Stranger things have happened. Try an audio CD, a DVD and a blue ray disk as well. Also, make a note of where the label is when you put a disk in, make sure it isn't coming out in the exactly the same orientation (ie, the drive is spinning disks). That's what I'm currently battling and haven't had much success with it yet."



    so what scenario am I left with if i put a disc in and it comes out in the same position? I planned on replacing the whole bluray drive. but if this problem is related to a different part of the ps3 I should know before i order a new drive.

     
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    The only thing that putting a new blue ray drive in wouldn't fix is if the controller board has died. That's the smaller daughter board that is screwed into the bottom of the blue ray drive. I have tested and confirmed that they are, indeed, married to the motherboard in some way (probably keyed to them like I hear the XBox360's are). However, 99.9% of no disks reading are related to the lasers so it's a pretty darn safe bet that you'd be fine if you did that.

    Nothing is a guarantee, though, but I would feel pretty good about your chances :)
     
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    If it does come out in the same position, it means the motor isn't spinning. This doesn't necessarily mean a problem with the motor, as from what I've gathered online that it tests the surface of the disc with both lasers before spinning up, and I've been able to confirm with mine own eyes.

    Screws: Most of the ones pertaining to the drive and ps3 lid were lost in the mail. I managed to replace the lid ones by splitting up ones from my other unit and pulling some from a busted PS2 (failed mod attempt). The disc drive I took a few screws from the inside, and screwed them to the outside, trying to secure it as much as possible.
    The one that's stumping me is the PS3 outer lid. I can't seem to find a screw for it, and there seems to be a nut missing (I plan to get a small screw and glue a nut to get this going).
     
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    I hear ya on the disk check with the laser, but I have lasers which light up blue and red and still no spinning happening at all. Even people who've reported no spinning say it usually tried to move a little bit, I have nada (that's doing this without the blue ray drive top and the top of the PS3 being on).

    That security bolt for the top of the PS3 is going to be tough to find I think. If you do locate one post up with size/thread worked for you :)
     
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    The one that's stumping me is the PS3 outer lid. I can't seem to find a screw for it, and there seems to be a nut missing (I plan to get a small screw and glue a nut to get this going). There is ( or was ) a small u shaped stamped metal pc with a tapped hole in it that lies in the ps3 were the screw attaches. It easily falls out if the ps3 is turned. One of those pcs that comes out of nowhere and you don't remember were it went. Happened to me the first time.
     
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    Sorry for the highjack,
    I have a ps3 that will not spin the disc,the laser trys to focus (moves a couple of times ) but will not emit light at all ..
    the disc bubble shows in the corner when i try to load a disc.
    I have another ps3 that works fine , and i tried to swap the blueray drive (Yes i swapped the controller boards out )but it still will not spin or read..(the bubble didnt even show ) i tried swapping the drives without swapping the boards and still nothing.
    Does anyone have any suggestions, I was thinking of ordering a new laser????/
     
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    This isn't a hijack, it's right on topic!!!!

    To be honest, I would say something isn't connected correctly. You should have at least gotten the bubble if you're re-using the same controller board. Triple check that first.

    If your original laser isn't lighting up at all, then it is likely the laser.

    However, if you can't get your known working drive to work, you could have a controller board problem (as I'm suspecting I have). There is an IC on the controller board which has failed on a few people (very few, low percentage failure) that starts with BD57 (I don't recall the rest). Earlier in this thread it's mentioned with links to replacements.

    Let us know if you get that other drive going!!
     
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    Thanks, I will check for the post and get back with you on the details later...
    Thanks again
     
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    OK I got a broken 40gb PS3 that wouldnt read blu ray games or movies but would read dvds and cds Im a computer tech so i figured I could fix it I took it apart and cleaned everything out and tested game it read for a minute then got ? it was a bit hot so i put it in fron of fan for 30 min and tried blu ray movie it played like 10 min then locked up i thought maybe its overheating but i played thru full dvd just fine so i decided to try some free demos played them all day no issues so I concluded that it was the laser diode overheating for some reason and ordered a replacement and installed it ...tried game first MGS4 installed it and played it for a while played just fine no issues ...then I tried a blu ray movie apocolypto and i just get loading bubble nothing else cleaned disc still nothing dont have any other movies to try atm still plays dvds just fine and played MGS4 for 8 hrs strait no issues ..although fan does crank way up a lot it never locks up at all has latest firware which was the first thing i updated when I got it 2.50 i think ...its just weird cuz it played that same movie for like 10 min before it locked up so i was sure it was the laser ..anyone else have any suggestions??? I will post back when I try some other BD movies
     
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    I've seen some blue ray movies not play on certain PS3's, if your games play I would bet you're fine.

    The fans will kick up when there's an intense game being used, as you tax the hardware more the cooling systems ramp up as well. Some people were reporting in an earlier update (2.43 I think) that their cooling fans never sped up, even after hours of intensive gaming.

    So that's probably a good thing for you. I wish I knew why some blue ray movies didn't work, but you're not alone. Maybe you can rip it to a computer or laptop and stream it to the PS3 over your home network?
     
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    Ya Ive read that certain BD movies wont play on PS3 ..but the weird thing is i got it to play on old laser before i replaced it for like 10 min I wonder if the replacement laser is different somehow the ribbon cable connector was brown instead of white ..I guess as long as it plays games im happy still just a weird issue
     
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    I think my PS3 has been using the fan less lately.

    But also you have to consider that everyone is using PS3s with different hardware. The original 20GB and 60GB units had 90nm chips. Mine is a 40GB, meaning that the Cell in it is 65nm while the RSX is still 90nm. The consoles on sale now have both the cell and RSX at 65nm, meaning they produce a lot less heat than anything else, so there'd be less of a need to kick the fan into high gear.
     

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