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Discussion in 'Video capturing from analog sources' started by sosantney, Aug 21, 2004.

  1. sosantney

    sosantney Member

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    Today I purchased a Movie Editing program called simple moviemaker. I don't know anything about movie editing or anything, so I thought this could be something simple I could start off with. The problem is it has this thing called DVR it says "DVR : MPEG DVR1394 turns your PC into a full-featured digital video recorder for digital camcorder. Click right mouse button to select TV capture device" But I don't have a Digital Camera, I have an anolog camera. If I buy an adapater at a store to capture the film , would it be able to detect it, because right now it says not dectecting digital camera plugged into the computer. If Yes, what kind of adapter and stuff would I need to buy. Thanks for the help. If this doesn't work, I have a Samsung SCL810 8mm Camcorder Hi8. What Kind of Capture card should i get, any editing program? thanks
     
  2. Minion

    Minion Senior member

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    Yes you are Going to have to Buy a Analogue Capture device and you will Not be able to use that Software to Capture your Files cuz that Software is For Captureing DV Through a Firewire Port from a DV Camcorder or from a Analogue to DV Converter....

    Depending on the Quality you want and the ease of Use and Compatibility with Capture Programs would determine what type of Device you should get, and of Cource the Money you want to spend....

    You can go Cheapo and just get a TV Tuner Card for probably under $50 but there are inherant problem like low quality and Sync Problems and you generally need a LOT of Disk space on a seperate drive to capture the Best Quality Full resolution Files, and if you do not have that kind of Disk space then you are going to have to use Real Time Software Mpeg compression which means you will need a Pretty fast pc, Generally about 2.0ghz is good for Full resolution Mpeg2 Capture but the quality isn"t quite as good when doing real time compression....

    If you are Willing to Spend a Couple Hundred Bucks on a High Quality capture device that doesn"t have any of the Low Quality Problems or Sync Problems and can even be used with the Capture software that you have then I suggest you Look into one of these Devices:

    Canopus ADVC-110
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC110/pm_advc110.asp

    Canopus ADVC-100
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/advc-100/pt_advc-100.asp

    Canopus ADVC-50
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/advc-50/pt_advc-50.asp

    Canopus ADVC-55
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC55/pt_advc55.asp

    Canopus AVCDVio
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC55/pt_advc55.asp

    All of these Decices are basicly the same thing just that some are internal and some are external...
    And the Prices shown on that site are about 50% Inflated so you can duy them else were like on E-bay from Reputible sellers for 50% or more Cheaper than on the Canopus Web site...

    These Devices are at the Pinnacle of Analogue to Digital Converters and Produce better quality and Functionality than device 3 times there Price..
    They are Tryuely Professinal Quality devices....

    Cheers

     
  3. kinza

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    Since you have an analog camcorder you need a video-capture device or card. You can get an external device or an internal card. Personally I would suggest getting an internal card because there are already enough wires going in and out of the computer.

    External devices like Dazzle's DVC 80 plug into your computer from a USB port. Here is a link for that product from Officemax:

    http://www.officemax.com/max/soluti...xpansionOID=-536895616&prodBlockOID=536979918

    I know this product is available at Best Buy incase you are looking for a more dependable retailer.

    If you want an internal video capture card, there are some that have component video(yellow) and component audio(red & white) all on the card. They come around $120.

    There are also cards that have only component video and S-video. Most products provide a y-audio cable that plugs into your line-in port and has component audio connectors on the other side. A line-in port if you don't know looks like your speaker port, almost the same symbol except the line goes in the opposite direction. I own one of these cards that are fairly cheap and also have good quality. Here is a link for one of these:

    http://www.officemax.com/max/soluti...xpansionOID=-536895616&prodBlockOID=537170913

    This one specifically has that y-audio cable and is only $50. I once saw Officemax also offering a mail-in-rebate making it only $10. This card includes it;s own video capturing program, but I suggest you don't use it because the video quality isn't good. You should use Windows Movie Maker(download update for movie maker 2 at microsoft.com) to capture and edit, if you are looking for something free. You can also use Nerovision Express if you Nero 6 Ultra Edition.

    Hope this helps.
     
  4. sosantney

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    Thanks everyone for the Advice. I was wondering what the name of the card was from OfficeMax. I checked the link but it no longer works, there is a OfficeMax about 10 mins from where I live so I am going to check it out and see if they have any capture cards there. You were saying that this card was about $50, was it a tv tuner or a capture card?
     
  5. kinza

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    It is a video-capture card and it's name is Avermedia DVD EZMaker PCI. It's $49.98 on the website when I last checked and it also had some sort of online rebate. Here is a link for the same product at CompUsa:

    http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=50240579&pfp=BROWSE

    I ordered from it's website and everything went fine. I have heard that CompUsa's return policy isn't that good so be warned. Good Luck.
     
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    If you are going to go analogue then the "Avermedia DVD EZMaker PCI" is an OK device But dont go for the "Dazzle DVC 80" as it is One of the Worst USB devices there is, It will only capture at a Max resolution of 320+240 which is far too small of a Resolution for Createing DVD"s or even VCD"s...
    Plus Dazzle has been Bought out by Pinnacle so the Old Dazzle Products are not supported by the new Company and the Old stock is selling for next to nothing on the Net ,Probably because the Devices are going to be worth next to nothing in a Short Time.....

    Cheers
     

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