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question regarding dvd+r quaility

Discussion in 'DVD±R media' started by revo0, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. revo0

    revo0 Member

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    What DVD+R produces the higest quaility picture or which produces the most skip\error free back up? Any recommendations would be apprieciated, Thanks
     
  2. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    Hi,

    Most of the quality in a copy is dependent upon the software you use to rip and process the backup - media does play a large part in how a copy will play. Memorex is an excellent example as media goes, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can't be trusted - " Who's making your Memorex tonight ?"

    Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example., Princo, Fuji, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren't all that suitable as a DVD backup media - that's why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.

    1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized :-(
    Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-(
    Another problem which "pops up" is a "*Power Calibration Error". This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A "Power Calibration Error" can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn't usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help.

    Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !

    What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.

    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -

    2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction !
    RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc -
    Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 RiData, Ritek, TDK, Sony or Verbatim discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 "Cheapo's with no movie backup OR, the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?

    Bear in mind, Memorex, Orange Pack, Princo, Fuji, Great AZO and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don't work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04's made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that "Oh no, I shouldn't have gotten those."
    Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts varying amounts, true but, they still lose :-(

    Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.

    BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the type of composite some manufactures use, their method of dye application and the lack of OR the poor quality control used during manufacturing. when I say "Branded" that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than that you are buying now.

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  3. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    I have been trying to back up DVD movies for a long time and I believe I have finally mastered the process. I have an Optorite DVD burner and I use "Clone DVD 2" and "Any DVD". I disable Norton Auto-Protect and I use HP 4x DVD+r's. These are the best disks I have ever used. I've tried all kinds of dvd media and have always had problems from errors recording to them just not playing on certain DVD players. Finally I tried the HP disks and I was astonished. I have not had a bad recording yet. I have burnt over 300 movies. They play on my DVD player, my GF's, My PS2 , and my XBox without any problems.
     
  5. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    Hi bumpybits, Welcome to AD,

    A little research shows the reason you like your HP discs so much -

    Refer to my previous post in regards to Manufacture's

    You made a good choice :)

    HP Media:

    General data:
    Offerer:
    HEWLETT PACKARD
    Designation:
    APPROX. 94304
    Print:
    HP
    Packing:
    Jewel Case
    EAN code:
    0051122192050
    UPC code:
    without
    Detail:
    Manufacturer's code:
    MCC 0038
    Manufacturer:
    Mitsubishi Chemical corporation
    Dye type:
    Unknown
    Version:
    Data capacity:
    4.70 GB
    Video capacity:
    120 minutes (standard Play)



    It pays to read ScubaPete's recommendations :)

    Cheers,

    Pete

     

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