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Re-Authoring using DVD Shrink

Discussion in 'DVD Shrink forum' started by jmlay, Dec 30, 2004.

  1. jmlay

    jmlay Member

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    I have read several guides on how to re-author, this forum as well as Doom9. I am utilizing DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15 to re-author & automatically burning with DVD Decrypter 3.5.1.0. I have burned 4 coasters utilizing this method. When I use the standard method just to copy and shrink with DVD Shrink & then burn with DVD Decrypter everything is fine.

    I I mount the ISO I am able to view the movie. I can not burn it properly.

    I have configured both programs as defined in the URL below:

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/123096

    Thanks,
     
  2. ScubaPete

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    Mike - while you're there on that page, follow the link I put there for a DVD Shrink / DVD Decrypter guide - all combined settings are there -

    Happy New Year

    Pete

     
  3. jmlay

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    Pete thanks for replying.

    I am assuming that the guide you are referring to is the one I have attached below. This is one of the first 2 or 3 posts I read, it is excellent! I have been able to RIP DVD's to ISO with no problem. I take this iso and open in DVD Shrink, make a few tweaks to remove what I do not want. Then backup from DVD Shrink, utilizing DVD Decrypter.

    The problem comes in when I attempt to "Re-author" a DVD. I see that DVD Shrink creates the ISO and DVD Decrypter does the burn. However when I go to play in drive it just spins. I went back and mounted the ISO that DVD Shrink created from the re-authoring and am able to view it just fine, so I know the ISO is good.

    The problem has to be somewhere in the burn process. I have DVD Decrypter set up as described in your guide below. Also I am using the same media that I use when I am just shrinking, not re-authoring.

    I am fine with using shrink but it would be nice not to be required to compress the video.

    Thanks,
    Mike

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    ScubaPete
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    25. August 2004 @ 20:47
    It's a good place for my guide -

    a ScubaPete story guide to custom edit & backup your favorite DVD

    Well Ok then, let’s just sit down and get comfy in front of the Big screen TV cause in just a minute or so the “Uncle ScubaPete Show” will be coming on the air –
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    Ooohhh Boy, Ooohhh Boy, am I excited ! I couldn't wait to see you !

    And what’s so great it could get Old ScubaPete (the original couch potato) excited ?

    FREE STUFF that’s what, the new FREE DVD Shrink version 3.2 AND DVD Decrypter !
    We now we can go from start to finish with just 2 programs (checkbook not necessary) and they are DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter -

    Come on and get your FREE DVD Shrink, right here ~ ~>
    http://www.dvdshrink.org/

    Now, over here in isle 5, get your FREE DVD Decrypter here ~ ~>
    http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

    "How good is it ?" you ask ?It's so good that you might want to
    PRINT IT OUT NOW ! (Easier to follow, don't you know ? :)

    NOW, IS EVERYBODY READY ???

    GOOD -

    First, you should create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Shrink will work on your movie files and DVD Decrypter can pick them up there to burn'em to disc. Try to put it someplace where you won't forget it - i.e. C:\All DVD work\ Sleeping Beauty Kills Bill, needs Anger Management

    Now open up DVD Decrypter - and under "Mode", select "ISO" then "Write" - under "Source" you may leave that blank as DVD Decrypter will find the location that DVD Shrink put your ISO image in all by itself. Select your "Destination" as your Burner - and make sure that the box that says "Verify" is un-ticked (This last one will cut down on false DVD Decrypter errors). Do that now. OK, feel free to close DVD Decrypter now because when DVD Shrink is finished it will open DVD Decrypter by itself.

    Let’s go get one of your favorite DVD’s and make a copy of it so should something unforeseen happen, like a waterspout hit the Mojave Desert and claim the original you’ll have a backup of it.

    Now you can place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner's drive (If you have two drives). If you only have the one drive, put your original in that drive now. When the time comes for you to put in your blank in either the drive door will open OR a message will appear. As for your DVD media, PLEASE USE; TDK, Ritek G04, "Branded" RiData, Verbatim "DataLife", Verbatim DataLife "Plus", Phillips, Sony , media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO", Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi are excellent bets. Other media could cause unnecessary errors. Only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Remember that RW discs will probably not play in older standalone players. But I suggest that you use your RW now until you get comfortable with the backup process. That way we won't be creating any "Coasters" during our trial period :) Now is defiantly not the time to put your, "Look how much money I saved on these." cheap stuff in.. Using quality media plays a major role in successful DVD burning. Certain "Name Brands" should not be trusted. If you're not sure, ask here before you buy.

    Now, into DVD Shrink we go, let's "click" "Edit", then "click" "Preferences" on this page we're going to select "DVD Target Size" as "Custom" and set the size between "4300MB" to "4360". - We do this to make sure that we don't burn to the very edge of the disc. When using poorer quality disc we may have to go lower still as the dye toward the edge many times is uneven or absent. Then, under the "File I/O" tab "UN-tick" "Enable burning with Nero" then "click" "OK". Let's do that now !

    Now let's burn a DVD, OK ? Kweel ! Alright then, let's open DVD Shrink and "click' "Open Disk". We'll have to wait anywhere from 30-seconds to a minute for DVD Shrink to analyze (rip) your DVD. If you wish, we can edit your movie now. To trim some unnecessary items from your movie, you can "un-tick" some extra audio you don't want like the foreign audio streams, i.e. Klingon, Solarian Cluster Mush OR Eastern Himalayan Yak language selections or the Director's comments (also known as Outer Mongolian). This will result in your DVD requiring less compression and therefore providing you with a better quality picture.
    If you would like, as I do, to get rid of all the extras and trailers thus compressing your movie as little as possible (giving you the very best quality picture), click "Re-author" then, under "Main Movie" select "Title 1" If there are additional choices, look at the time and select the title with the longest time as that is usually the main attraction. "Click" and drag the "Title 1" from the right-hand side of the screen to the left-hand side, under the "DVD Structure" (DVD) and release it there. Additional editing may be done by using the "Start" \ "Finish" controls to the right of the "DVD Compilation" heading on the left-hand side of the Re-author window. Bingo, Bango, you are done editing, giving you the least compression (best quality), backup possible. Now select "Backup" to get ready to finish.

    NOTE:
    If you want a "Full backup", that's everything on the original disc on your backup. We need to be sure that the "Full Disc" icon is depressed. Don't try to cheer it up and don't worry, it likes being "depressed". There's no problem in doing a "Full backup" as long as we don't see any "Red" on the size bar at the top of your window. If you should see some "Red" on the size bar, simply "Un-tick" any foreign languages, i.e. Klingon, Solarian Mush-mouth, Director's comments or DTS sound boxes until the "Red" disappears. Actually you can "Un-tick" those things anyway, it'll lessen the compression on your backup. (a good thing :) With no "Red" visible on the size bar we just let the "Automatic" (Default) settings alone.

    Since we are editing our DVD, DO NOT TOUCH THE "FULL DISC" BUTTON.
    Clicking the "Full Disc" button will erase our editing work and reset DVD Shrink to do a full backup.
    It's now time to select Backup". Take just a second and under "Target Device" go to "Select backup target " once there, select "ISO Image File and burn with DVD Decrypter". Now, under "Quality Settings", if it's SPEED you're after, "un-tick" the box which says, "Perform deep analysis" and "un-tick" the box for "Compress the video with high quality adaptive error compensation". This will give you an acceptable DVD backup.
    If it's QUALITY you're after and have some extra time to spend, "tick" Perform deep analysis before backup to improve quality" AND "tick" "Compress video with high quality adaptive error compensation." There you may adjust quality enhancements. Practicing with the settings can produce even better end products. For a no-frills DVD's like "There's something about Mary" I like Extra Smooth BUT for DVD's with a lot of special effects, I use the Extra Sharp setting. That's for me, you'll have to decide what you like :) If all the boxes are "grayed out" that's OK, it means your DVD is small enough that little will be lost from the original. Good, now click "OK." Finally, where it says "Select target image file", browse till you find your created folder for your backup, C:\All DVD Work\Sleeping Beauty Kills Bill, needs Anger Management and click "Save". That's it ! Click "OK" and enjoy a peaceful cup of tea. DVD Shrink will work it's little heart out, obeying your commands and putting a copy of your work on your HD while instructing DVD Decrypter to toast your DVD to your waiting disc to a rich, golden "Done"..
    - Believe it or not, that was as hard as it ever gets -
    We'll not have to mess with our settings again :)

    I KNOW you won't go anywhere near that PC while it's working cause we don't want to mess up the burn this late in the game do we ?

    Tell me now, . . . .

    Wasn't that finer than frog hair ?

    Slicker than a slimy, slithery, Southern, three-toed Sloth ?

    Yep, ya see, . . . . I thought you'd say that - .
    Me and thee, what a team :-D)

    Thank you for choosing a ScubaPete Guide.

    (Remember, when you want a guide with a "out of sight, out of his mind" personality, shop ScubaPete :p)

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  4. ScubaPete

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    Mike,


    There's no way it should be any different - it still goes to backup the same and it's burned the same AND if you're using the same discs - it HAS to play the same UNLESS you have deleted something you shouldn't have during your re-authoring.

    All you should be doing is dragging the "Title 1" under the "Main Movie" heading, you shouldn't be doing anything else at all.

    You need to describe EVERYTHING ELSE YOU'RE DOING,and I mean EVERYTHING you're doing, click by click, mouse move by mouse move. Take 3 pages but don't leave out anything -

    I'll be waiting -

    Pete

     
  5. jmlay

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    I may have found the error to my ways. I was doing everything as you described in your post, word for word. I had my max size set to 4360 & changed it to 4300 and burned at a max speed of 6x then the burn completed successfully. I suspecty taht it was the max size of the DVD that was killing me.

    Mike
     
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    Hey there Mike,


    Let take a few seconds and explain about that Max size thing -

    A top quality disc i.e RiData, Ritek G04, Verbatim DataLife PLUS OR a branded Taiyo Yuden has dye right up to the very edge of the disc and will allow you to write that far. A cheaper disc Memorex, Prodisc,Maxell etc doesn't have enough dye to write on Soooo, we have to dial back the number. With something like Memorerx you'll do better to have it about 4300MB (Or if it's really bad, 4250MB) so you'll have a stable surface.

    Some composite discs litterally "flake" at the extreme outer edge so dialing back a bit is necessary. Put that together with a crappy dye application and IMO, you'd be better off with a pencil and paper (Lol).

    Cheers,

    Pete :p)


     
  7. StrikerX

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    So sorry to hijack this tread but was looking for a good re-authoring guide for dvd shrink and seem to have stumbled upon it. But I do have a quick question for Scubapete...I read in the other dvd shrink guide that decryptor has to be ran first to remove the encryption of some (nowadays all) dvd's. For this guide here would I just need to add that step of decryption first and then guide would start with selecting the file from my HD?? Again my apologies for hijacking your thread Mike.
     
  8. ScubaPete

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    Hi StrikerX,


    I don't see a reason to use DVD Decrypter first. There's only a few discs (3 or 4) that need DVDD's help.

    Go ahead and use DVD Shrink as per the guide - for the rare birds, use the new DVD Decrypter (released today and will now handle all the new encryptions).

    Here's the site - http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

    Cheers,

    Pete ;P)



     
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    Printed out the guide and used it to the teeth last night. Worked wonders on Troy. Now to find a way to determine if my new Sony DvD+R media is the metal azo type that has been preferred for dvd backup media.

    Gonna be along while before I complete backing up my dvd collection but well worth the time and effort since the youngens are already starting to destroy it.
     
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    Way to go StrikerX ! !

    CONGRATS ! !


    We're glad you're burning up a storm :)

    Consider this an invitation, stop on back, don't be a stranger, you're welcome even if you don't have problems to solve -

    You can just "Hang out" and read some, improve your knowledge, help others if you can spot their problem, 3 heads are better than 2 (said the Cyclops to the Ogre). You can check out our forums on Home Theater components, Games, p2p topics or even cellular phones Or you could hang out in the "Safety Valve," a forum for gossiping about anything and everything under the sun :)
    Check de place out, you just might find a little something that'll interest you -

    Me ? Hey, I'll be over there, out from under that broiling hot sun, under the "Potted" Palm, right next to the water cooler. Just chewin' the fat and waiting for the next Newbie who needs a bit "O" help - Stop by and say "Howdy" -

    I'll be lQQking forward to Sea'n you,

    Cheers my friend,

    Pete :p)




     

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