Hello all, Just to start off, let me say that this is a great forum for DVD and CD storage/backup/copy needs, and thanks to everyone for the great conributions here. Great job! So, I've never been much of a gamer, but recently took an interest and decided the PS2 was a good system to start off. No big cost and good game selection. Anyway, I purchased brand new Silver Slim PS2 SCPH-77001. Also decided to purchase something to boot backups, so I chose Swap Magic 3.6 and Swap Tool Pro from modchip.ca Install info for swap tool pro: http://www.modchip.ca/install/ps2/nosolder/swaptool2_engl.jpg I received and installed all that with no problems, works fine. However, now comes the backup part where I am having soem problems. Let me outline a few things that I DO KNOW from my own reasearch and reading on this forum: 1. Media makes a difference. I was initially using Memorex DVD-R, but then bought some Verbatim 16x DVD-R AZO discs. 2. Burner makes a difference. I have tried the Pioneer on my laptop and the Super Multi LG on my desktop. 3. Use the right software. Was initially using Nero, then used CloneCD and now DVD Encryptor as per tutorials on this forum. 4. Might not work with ALL games. I tried 3 titles: Star Wars: Battefront, Phantasy Star Universe, and Prince of Persia: Two Thrones. This is what happens: I load up Swap Magic DVD and get to the screen that says "Load Program" where you need to swap. I open up the lid (the PS2 stays booted as the Swap Tool Pro is installed) and the screen says changes to "Insert bigger TOC disc". I'm not sure if this is normal, but I anyway insert my DVD backup. The screen changes back to the "Load Program" screen, but it now says "Not a valid PS2 disc" in blue. This happens with all of the tests I have done using the different media, software, burners and games. I have lots of coasters! :S Now I feel that I am missing some obvious piece of the puzzle here, or I don't understand some concept. Any comments and help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, James.