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Ripping & Burning, which is the quickest method.

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by Shaun2209, Jan 3, 2004.

  1. Shaun2209

    Shaun2209 Guest

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm fairly new to this burning lark. At present I'm using WinDVD Creator which converts & burns my files in one hit. However, while I've had excellent results so far (4 coasters out of 25 DVD R Discs) the time it takes is getting quite frustrating. It takes approx. 2.5-3hrs from start to finish to convert & burn the file on to a disc.

    I just wondered if anyone had any advice as to what other software/method I could use which might speed the process up a little. I have Nero 5.5, but when I use it I always seem to get poor results, hence the coasters. I realise this is probably due to my not having got my head round it yet.

    I realise different people will use different software & methods, what I'm looking for is tips from somone who uses certain software which always seems to yield good results and, more importantly, isn't so time consuming.

    Any & all tips/advice I receive will be very welcome.

    Thanks. Shaun.
     
  2. drchips

    drchips Active member

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    Shaun,

    don't want much, do ya?

    The current state of play in the Rip/Edit/Compress/Burn world is broadly thus:

    You can have SIMPLE, with acceptable quality (acceptable is a relative term) and reasonable time:

    or

    you can have MULTI-STAGE, with better quality and longer times:

    or

    you can have MANUAL CONTROL, with best possible quality and considerable times.

    At the moment you cannot get Simple, Best Quality and Fast.....

    Some people use a multi-tool (swiss army knife kind of thing), others have a full toolbox of specialist tools.

    If a mechanic started work on your car armed with a monkey wrench and a hammer ONLY, what level of quality would you expect - you would probably trust the mechanic with a well-kept toolchest full of snap-on specialist tools....

    Try not to choose priorities or aims that are in conflict with what is currently possible.

    There are working methods available, but Quality is expensive (time, media, effort etc).

    Speed CAN be purchased, but costs BIG BUCKS (hardware and software).

    Hope this does not put you off...

    Have Fun...
     
  3. baabaa

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    Very nice explanation drchips.....however I think he was looking for a few programs on the way there.....

    Nevermind, I found your post VERY intuitive just the same.....thanks...

    Shaun2209

    Here are the programs I use and their approximate times:

    Dvd Decrypter - 15mins avg - (Movie Only in File mode)
    Dvd2one - 10mins avg - (variable compression at 4400Mb)
    Recordnow DX - 14mins avg - (4x Ritek GO4)

    2.4Ghz P4 (with hyper thread s..t)
    1Gb 400 DDR Ram
    120Gb HD
    60Gb HD
    Geforce 128 DDR Graphics...
    Pioneer 106 for burning only....
    Crappy LG Dvdrom......

    This method yields good enough quality for me, the quality will be greatly increased if you retain just the movie and no subs.......this is what I use and experience no coasters..........

    There are other methods available (Dvd Shrink/clonedvd etc).....however this method works for me GREAT.......

    I am of course assuming you are talking about backing up dvd's, however I also use Pinnacle Studio 8 to backup my vcr tapes and dv camcorder shots...

    This process is VERY time consuming (maybve 4 hours or so, but I ENJOY it) as once I have captured it (realtime), I then have to edit it and then render/author it in order to produce a suitable dvd with menus/chapters/audio overlays etc.....

    Again I enjoy doing it and it also yields suitable quality for my viewing.

    Hope this helps.......
     
  4. drchips

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    baabaa,
    on one of my systems; P3-933, 512 PC133, 2 x (2 x 120Gig striped), 16 x DVD-ROM Pioneer I get the following:

    with a 7.5 Gig film to rip
    DVDDecrypter: less than 10 mins....
    DVD2One: less than 5 mins...
    is there summat wrong with your system??

    I agree with RecordNow (used PrimoDVD for years, and am testing/evaluating RecordNow Max V4.5, Stomp's version, as a replacement/addition - me HATES Nero for DVD's, horribly FLAKEY stuff).

    Shaun,
    I would also recommend looking at IFOEdit and SmartRipper if Quality is important.

    I also thought that FAST was important to you...

    Sorry if I mis-understood (techie with very little dealings with non-techie i.e. sometimes have difficulty coming down to the real world)

    Have Fun...

     
  5. Shaun2209

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    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for all your replies. They've certainly given me something to think about.

    Thanks. Shaun
     
  6. baabaa

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    drchips...

    It is actually alot quicker but I just average them out cos there seems to be alot of 'bragging' concerning speed related stuff so I just keep it as Mr average......

    Not implying you are bragging.......

    The ripping process is slightly quicker (movie only), and I choose not to flash anything to increase ripping times etc.

    Dvd2one actually takes between 5 and 6 mins, like you

    These times are acceptable for me cos I can do a complete dvd from start to finish in less than an hour, therefore I have time to drink horlicks and make little paper swans.....LOL.....

    I only use the ATAPI on my system aswell (XP Home), even though everyone has told me to go for ASPI......seems pointless if I'm not experiencing problems with it...........

    As for Nero....urrgggggg!!!!!!, started with Nero 5 - OK but very temperamental, then converted to Recnow....never looked back since....does what I need it to do.....

    Have a good one dude.......

    So you are a techie.....great, I shall keep you in mind when I come into something interesting that needs some expertise....

    Actually do you know of any good books or software that can get you deep into the achitecture of a PC......you know file extensions, data flow, bus speed etc etc....?

    It is a little off topic, but if you know of anything could you pm some details.......cheers in advance......
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    baabaa,

    yep, agree about ASPI, I have seen too many system frelled by aspi and from experience I know it can play havoc with the px-engine that is used by PrimoDVD, RecordNow, TMPG DVD Author and many others.

    I love that px-engine.. nicely stable, reliable and non-intrusive as far as resources are concerned,
    BUT: watch out with some of the NForce 2 chip drivers about, the web downloaded ones are OK, but sometimes the ones off the cd's are not!!!

    Have Fun...
     

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