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Scare Tactics from N*L

Discussion in 'Digital TV - UK & Europe' started by belgrove, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. belgrove

    belgrove Member

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    One of my mates received this letter in his job yesterday morning

    Matter: Use of Eurovox, Starview, D Boxes & Similar Pirate DCCJ-VPÜOH Devices

    Dear Sir/Madame,
    You may be aware of the existence of the above boxes which can be used to illegally access ntl or Chorus’ services. It is the responsibility of UPC Ireland (comprises ntl & Chorus) to clarify the
    following to all our customers: UPC’s services should only be accessed through use of an authorised set top box provided by the company to each customer. Using any of the above set top boxes or simi ar pirate decryption devices for the purpose of accessing our services thout paying the correct fee is illegal and breathes the Broadcasting Act 1990 as well as various other laws relating to contractual matters, intellectual property and the Conditional Access RegWations.
    UPC is particularly concerned that all of our customers understand the significance ofsection 10 ofthc Broadcasting Act 1990, This states that it is an criminal offence for the owner/person in control of any premises ic. hotel/pub/shop guesthouse etc to knowingly allow such illegal interception of UPC services take place on that premises. If/he use of such a device is proven, then it is presumed that the owner/person in con/rot of the premises knew that the device was being used and can be found guilty of the offcnce and sentenced for up to two years imprisonment and/or fined up to €25,400.00,
    Further to the above we can confinn that we are aware that a number of our valued customers have been approached by individuals proposing to sell them these devices as a legitimate means of accessing our services. The purpose of this letter is to confinn that using these devices is illegal and could result in both criminal and civil sanctions being taken against you and/or your employer and/or your company.
    Recently the press reported on a case that is to he heard shortly in the High Court involving another major telecommunications company which is suing an individual who was supplying hotels with similar pirate decryption devices. UPC also has a team in place in Ireland which has been investigating this matter fbr some time now and gathering the evidence and proof is needed to bring similar proceedings. We are working closely with the Gardai as we are obliged to share our information with them so that they can secure successful criminal prosecutions and we are considering all possible avenues of redress including using proof that a premises employs such a device to illegally access our services as a basis upon which to object to the renewal of that premises liquor licence.
    If having read this letter, it perhaps even becomes apparent that your premises is using such a device we would urge you to contact us immediately to arrange to pay the outstanding fees due and to sign up to an appropriate contract. We are amenable to dealing with the matter in this way rather than both parties incurring the legal costs of a court case. It should also be noted that if UPC does have to bring such an action, it will look to recover its own legal costs from the other party.
    Finally, we would like to thank you for your ongoing custom and reiterate that we would be most grateful for your assistance in respect of this difficult mailer in any way possible. If you have any information whatsoever relating to the pirating of our services in your area please forward this information in confidence for the attention of: ‘The Fraud & Risk Team, UPC, East Point Business Park. Dublin 3.
     
  2. MICKAH

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    he is not the only one, big brother is watching e-bay
     
  3. karljd

    karljd Regular member

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    Think what this means is they have'nt a clue how to stop us using the "boxes",robbing swines charged me elderly mother in law €7 cos she paid her bill a couple of days late so fook them.
     
  4. ruprect

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    Same fine/imprisonment goes for people recording coronation street...

    Looks like they are only after hotels etc who should be paying a lot more than the average household.

    Has anybody ever heard of a normal houseowner being done for this?

    I am always surprised at the blatant ads out there in the buy and sell, and other papers. I have heard a few stories of guys knocking door to door offering them. Idiots.
     
  5. karljd

    karljd Regular member

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    Ads in shop windows,buy and sell, greedy gobshites deserve to get caught!
     
  6. MICKAH

    MICKAH Active member

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    Without putting a finer point on it, do you not think this place and other forums are not monitored also. Sure they are selling em in sunday markets in Dublin!
     
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    karljd Regular member

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    Very true mickah jaysus they must be tearing their hair out when they read these forums.
     
  8. sc0user

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    Section 10 relates to business premises although it could be construed as a public household also. Section 9 is more becoming:

    Prohibition on interception of services. 9.—(1) No person, other than a duly authorised officer of the Minister, shall, in relation to a service provided by a licensee or a service provider—

    ( a ) intercept the service,

    ( b ) suffer or permit or do any other thing that enables such interception by any person,

    ( c ) possess, manufacture, assemble, import, supply, or offer to supply, any equipment which is designed or adapted to be used for the purpose of enabling such interception by any person, or

    ( d ) publish information with the intention of assisting or enabling any person to intercept such a service.

    (2) No person shall—

    ( a ) knowingly install or attempt to install or maintain any equipment which is capable of being used or designed or adapted to be used for the purpose of enabling such interception by any person, or

    ( b ) wilfully damage or attempt to damage a system or part of a system operated by a licensee or service provider.

    (3) A person who contravenes any provision of subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence.

    (4) In this section "intercept" in relation to a service means receive, view, listen to, record by any means or acquire the substance or purport of the service or part thereof supplied by a licensee or service provider without the agreement of the licensee or service provider.

    Now lets just say that we do not do any of this and leave it at that as this thread is a bit too prominent.
     
  9. wlash

    wlash Guest

    why arent all the guys selling these boxs been prosecuted then? i was under the impression it wasnt illegal to sell or own the box, it only becomes illegal when you connect up the cable to the box and start receiving the channels?
     
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    sc0user Active member

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    I did say this thread is becoming too prominent.
     
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    So did I think the same,a guy from N*L told me that you can't get into trouble by selling or owning one but ONLY if you actually use one then you can.
     
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    Before you sell a box you should check first Statutory Instruments S.I. Nr. 357 of 2000 for ireland.
     

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