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Serious problem with the speed of DVD writer guys!! Pls Assist

Discussion in 'DVD±R for advanced users' started by bharatgr8, Feb 15, 2007.

  1. bharatgr8

    bharatgr8 Member

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    Hello guys,
    I own a LG DVD writer with max speed of 16x.I bought it about 14 months back.Everything was working fine.For about 1 month,I completely stopped burning DVDs in the writer.
    Suddenly when i started to burn the DVD on Feb 15th, i found out that the Nero says The Maximum Speed of my DVD writer is now 8x.
    I am unable to burn a DVD in the speed of 16x which i used to do so for past 12 months.I donno how,but the speeds which i can choose to burn the DVD in NERO are just 8x & 4x.I cant see an option of 16x speed.
    And one more problem is that,I burnt the DVD in 8x speed and it took abt 14 minutes to burn the DVD of size 4.2gb.Though the problem is with the time, theres one more problem i faced i.e., there was no content in this DVD, which took 14 min to complete the burning process.I dint find anything inside the DVD when i inserted and checked it.
    I even reinstalled the DVD writer using my Device Manager.but it still says the max speed is 8x.
    Pls help me guys.Do u think i need to update the drivers.
    Gotta do lot of important stuff with my DVD writer.
    Hoping to c swift replies from you guys.
     
  2. bbmayo

    bbmayo Active member

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    Ok one very important piece of information you left off here is what is the brand and type of DVD media you are using?

    Also your drive most likely needs a firmware update. Go here Firmware and find your drives most up to date firmware and flash your drive. You need to do this to keep your drive up to date with all the different brands and types of media out there.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2007
  3. JoeRyan

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    The drive and Nero combination will only allow a maximum speed of discs it recognizes. A 16X medium may be recorded at 16X if the firmware in the drive recognizes the disc or at 8X or even 4X if it does not recognize the disc. If you once recorded at 16X and now can only record at 8X, you have changed the media brands or formats (DVD+R to DVD-R or vice versa). Updating the firmware may help by adding the MID code of the new discs to the drive's firmware table.
     
  4. fasfrank

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    Why don't you post your last Nero log. We can figure out a ton of stuff with that.

    If Nero 7...
    C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\NeroHistory.log

    Sometimes newer Nero 7 versions are saved in:
    C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Ahead\Nero Burning ROM

    If Nero 6...
    C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroHistory.log

    If you do post your Nero 6 log, make sure to remove your serial number.
     
  5. bharatgr8

    bharatgr8 Member

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    Guys,
    U r absolutely correct.My LG DVD writer is compatible to burn DVD+R and the DVD i was trying to burn is of format DVD-R.
    So i think that would be the problem here.
    And u asked me to update my firmware.I did so.And then i tried to burn the DVD of format DVD-R.But the same problem persists.
    Though its able to burn the DVD with the speed of 16x this time,i cant view any contents which i have burnt into the DVD.Again the DVD seems to be blank even after the burning process which lasted for 5:10min.
    And guys there were two updates available like normal drivers and the separate drivers for OEM. May i know whats OEM?I installed the normal drivers.I doubted if my DVD burner is OEM category.
    So guys,is there no solution for my DVD Writer to burn DVDs of format DVD-R?
    Anyways i m posting the NeroHistory.Log file.please have a look at it.


    Bharadwaj
    R.K.Industries
    ********************************

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.56, size=163910 bytes, created 4/2/2003 8:43:44 PM
    Nero version: 6.0.0.0
    Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B>Version: DL13 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.0.0.0
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B>Version: DL13 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.0.0.0
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : ST3160023AS atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8526B atapi Port 3 ID 1 DMA: On
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 510MB (522984kB)
    Free physical memory: 167MB (171224kB)
    Memory in use : 67 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    16.2.2007
    CD-ROM (ISO)
    1:29:38 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 5451
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : FALSE
    Multisession : TRUE
    Multisession type: : Start multisession
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    1:29:38 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    1:29:38 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 127
    Writer HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B running

    1:29:38 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3814
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    1:29:38 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3081
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    1:29:38 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 224
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45)
    Last address to be written: 2194863 (487:44.63)

    1:29:38 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 229
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    1:29:38 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1688
    Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: MBI 01 - RG40
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    1:29:38 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 757
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original CD pos #0 + 2194864 (2194864) = #2194864/487:44.64
    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2194864 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    1:29:38 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3318
    Recorder and media-info ======================= Burning to HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B on a DVD-R media

    1:29:41 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 910
    Prepare recorder HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B for write in cue-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN:
    TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD not fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 200421376

    1:29:41 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1818
    Caching of files started

    1:29:41 PM #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1818
    Caching of files completed

    1:29:41 PM #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1818
    Burn process started at 16.1x (22,218 KB/s)

    1:29:41 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2104
    Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    1:29:41 PM #16 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1678
    Set remaining time: 3:28,083 (208083ms) -> OK

    1:29:41 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1407
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    1:29:41 PM #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 18119
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    1:29:41 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1522
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    1:29:41 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7827
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Media Specific:
    60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 `...0@P...!.....
    02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    1:34:39 PM #21 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 112
    <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2194864 (217DB0h), lenght 0 blocks

    1:34:39 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 227
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    1:34:51 PM #23 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1678
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    1:34:51 PM #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1678
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    1:34:51 PM #25 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1818
    Burn process completed successfully at 16.1x (22,218 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 5:29:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
     
  6. aabbccdd

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    you don't want to burn at 16x anyway . it will cause read errors/playback problems keep it at 8x max.

    update your nero to 6.6.1.8

    also make sure you are using good blank media like Taiyo Yuden and or Verbatim

    booktyping the DVD+R to DVD-ROM will help with playback problems on some dvd player too
     
  7. bharatgr8

    bharatgr8 Member

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    Hi,
    Thanks for ur considerate reply.
    I think i dint face any problem till now with the DVDs which i burnt with a speed of 16x.So i think burning @ 16x is fine.
    U were telling me to update NERO.Do u think that would solve the problem?
    And,pls clarify me reg the OEM thing.Hows it different from Normal Drivers?
     
  8. bharatgr8

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    guys,
    i forgot to mention the media i m using.I use only Moserbaer.
    i dont even touch other brands bcoz i dint face any kinda problem with Moserbaer ever before.
    I m sorry that i making many small posts.I actually to forgot to mention this point.
    Bye
     
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    OK, first of all your drive does support writing to the - and the + format so I am not sure were you came up with that it won't?

    Also you need to slow down the speed at which you are burning x16 is way to fast. Those discs you have weather you want to believe it or not are junk. That is why I kept asking for the brand of media you were using from the start. You could have saved yourself some time here if we would have known what discs you were using. Just because you were lucky with this brand of disc before doesn't mean they will work every time. These are evidently different and as different I mean a different pack (not brand) than you used before because after you flashed your drive you can now burn at x16. Your drive just doesn't like those off the wall brand DVDs. Do your self a favor and get some better DVD Media and just about anything else will be better than those except for Memorex.

    Good luck
     
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    Your media |-> http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediadvdridsearch=MBI 01RG40..

    I never burn above 4x [15 min for a DVD]. You save 10 mins burning at 16x. How long does it take to encode that DVD. Think about it.
    I use RiData Ritek G04 or G05. 600 DVDs and 5 coasters [mainly my fualt not the disc]

    Edit
    Check your writer's DMA is on.
    Post a log for the 8x burn.
     
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  11. bharatgr8

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    guys,
    U were very helpful chaps.It finally worked with the Moserbaer DVDs itself.After updating the firmware to my DVD Recorder, I burnt the DVD-R with a speed of 8x as u suggested and it worked ultimately.
    So i think i better avoid burning DVDs @ 16x speed especially these DVD-R DVDs.
    Thanks a lot guys.I knew you would do it.That is the only reason y i depend solely on Afterdawn members.
    Bye Bye
     
  12. aabbccdd

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    yeah, you def don't want to burn at 16x i don't why you would think that is ok.

    i use Taiyo Yuden the best media on the market and only burn at 8x max.

    and as bbmayo said your choice of blank media is poor. and long term will cause you problems like dye rot ,read errors etc. so in a year or so if they don't playback don't come crying to us lol. using the good stuff like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim is def the better choice
     
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    ^^^ DITO! ^^^^^

    :)
     
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    Guys,
    U dont understand my problem.The brands which u have suggested like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim arent available in our country INDIA.
    If they r available by chance,the cost would be too high obviously.And i cant afford more than 20-25 INR bucks per each DVD.
    So pls understand my situation.
     
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    That's the saddest story I've heard all morning. Have you considered moving somewhere more suited to aquiring better media. I mean are you serious about your burning or what? Just kidding It's my first cup of coffee.
     
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    Moser Bayer (MBI) is a good manufacturer of media. They actually produce discs for Verbatim. Those who know little about dyes (There is no such thing as dye "rot," for example.) swear by Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim and swear at everything else. Both are very good and very compatible discs, but there are many others of good quality and less compatibility. If MBI media work on your drive and quality scans look good, then they are compatible with your drive. Slowing down to 8X reduces the power load on the recording laser and increases the mechanical tolerances of the drive for good recordings. Choosing 8X for 16X media is a good idea. As for durability, some of the MBI discs have shown superb results in environmental tests. The MBI facilities are dedicated to quality to such a degree that they rely on their own power grid for electricity rather than depend on the Indian national power supply.
     
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    Guys,Pls dont be outraged.I know that i m kinda testing your Patience by putting lot of queries.
    Anyways i have a serious problem.I already told u that i faced with a problem where i was unable 2 burn DVDs of format DVD-R.
    Now that i have upgraded the firmware,i m able 2 burn the DVD-R DVDs only till 8x speed.Thats not a problem.
    But u c,now,I m unable 2 burn even the DVD+R DVDs with a speed of 16x which i used 2 do this earlier.
    My DVD burner is of DVD+Recordable type.
    I used to burn DVDs with 16x speed without any problem.Now after i did that firmware updating from the site u provided, i m unable to burn the normal DVDs with 16x speed.
    I know that u guys dont wanna reply to this bcoz u always say that burning a DVD @ 16x is not recommended for the DVD as well as DVD burner.But i m forced to write DVDs here with 16x speed as time available is less for me in my office.
    So,can any1 help me with this problem?DO u think thats the problem with the drivers i updated with.
    And one more doubt of mine is that,whats OEM drivers?how does it differ from the normal drivers?
    Pls answer...
     
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    The world is full of compromises. You have to decide which ones to make. In order to record at 16X you have to either:
    1) spend more money and get Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim media that may record in your drive OR
    2) by a newer drive that is more likely to have support for MBI 16X discs.

    Updating your firmware may actually have been a reason for the speeds slowing to 8X. Firmware authors may choose to do this rather than spend the time eking out the best performance of an MID code at its highest rated speed. Your drive is "old" in computer terms. A manufacturer will offer his best support to his branded drives. OEM drives are often up to the brand slapped onto them, and their support can vary dramatically. The firmware installs itself if it sees the proper ID string (the model name and number that appears in recording software); if the string is an OEM identification, the manufacturer's firmware update will probably not work.

    If time is precious and your access to media choices is limited, your best option is to buy a new drive and use MBI media at 16X.
     

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