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Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by dustonio, Jul 3, 2007.

  1. dustonio

    dustonio Member

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    Trying to make a copy on a dual layer, it starts out on "creating the image for burning" and that takes way longer than it used to before i reinstalled windows mce. I should also mention I switched my laptop hardrive from a 4200rpm to a 7200rpm.. DMA is enabled. I'm also using AnyDvd for decryption. It must be something to do with the reading drive or some setting that is limiting it. Is there any way to copy a disc without making a temp file? heres my log:

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -

    NT-SPTI used
    Nero Version: 7.9.6.0
    Internal Version: 7, 9, 6, 0
    (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M>Version: SB04 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.9.6.0
    Adapter driver: <USB 2.0> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : set to ATAPI (3) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242>Version: UD30 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.9.6.0
    Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : HTS721010G9AT00 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242 D: CdRom0
    TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M E: CdRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 894MB (916464kB)
    Free physical memory: 699MB (715848kB)
    Memory in use : 21 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    23.6.2007
    ===== Disc-Copy over image - 1st step : Copy to image ...

    6:07:20 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
    LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

    6:07:21 PM #2 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 215
    SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

    6:07:21 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 320
    DVD Track-Information from source disc:
    Media Type: DVD-ROM
    Last LBA on layer 0 = 1908735 / 0x1D1FFF / 3727MB
    S01 T01 Con 0x14 Start 0 Len 3788528 NWA -1 (gap 0) Blank 0 Res 0 Dmg 0 Open Trk 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)

    6:07:21 PM #4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 435
    Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
    1: 0 - 3788528 = 3788528, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)

    6:07:21 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3508
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    6:07:21 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
    Last possible write address on media: 4718591 (1048:34.41, 9215MB)
    Last address to be written: 3788527 (841:53.52, 7399MB)

    6:07:21 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    6:07:21 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    6:07:21 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 793
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Data (mode 1))
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 3788528 (3788528) = #3788528/841:53.53
    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3788528 blocks [Image Recorder]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    6:07:21 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 995
    Prepare [Image Recorder] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 7758905344, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 3788528 | 3788528 | 0x00
    3788528 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

    6:07:21 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4294
    Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-No, small files-No (<64KB)

    6:07:21 PM #12 Phase 120 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
    Creating the image for burning

    6:07:21 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2721
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    6:07:21 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
    Pipe memory size 590400

    6:43:43 PM #15 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
    <Image Recorder> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 3788528 (39CEF0h), length 0 blocks

    6:43:44 PM #16 Phase 121 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
    Creating Image completed successfully

    6:43:45 PM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 261
    SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

    6:43:47 PM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
    UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

    6:43:47 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11185
    DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed



    ===== Disc-Copy over image - 2nd step : Burn the image ...

    6:43:50 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
    LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

    6:43:51 PM #2 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
    Image was written as DAO.
    DAOI:
    MediaCatalogNumber = ''
    TocType = 0x40
    Finalized = 1
    First/Last Track = 1 / 1
    1: ISRC = ''
    Blocksize = 2048
    TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1'
    TrackConfig = 0x00
    First/Last Index = 0 / 1
    Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 0, NextTrackFilePos = 7758905344
    CUES:
    LBRK: Last LBA on layer 0 = 1908735 / 0x1D1FFF / 3727MB
    MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C)
    Image file name: <C:\Documents and Settings\Joe Smith\My Documents\TempImage.nrg>

    6:43:52 PM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3508
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    6:43:53 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
    Last possible write address on media: 4173823 (927:30.73, 8151MB)
    Last address to be written: 3788527 (841:53.52, 7399MB)

    6:43:53 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    6:43:53 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2964
    Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK, Media Type ID: S04, Product revision number: 1
    Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

    6:43:53 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    6:43:53 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 793
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 3788528 (3788528) = #3788528/841:53.53
    not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3788528 blocks [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    6:43:53 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 995
    Prepare [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 7758905344, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 3788528 | 0 | 0x00
    3788528 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

    6:43:53 PM #10 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 215
    SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

    6:43:53 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4294
    Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-No, small files-No (<64KB)

    6:43:53 PM #12 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
    Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)

    6:43:56 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2721
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    6:44:31 PM #14 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 179
    CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x24
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0xAD 00 00 00 00 00 00 21 08 04 00 00
    Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24
    Buffer x0611e740: Len x804

    6:44:31 PM #15 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 659
    L0 Data Zone Capacity set to 1908736 (1D2000h, 3728MB) -> OK, confirmed setting

    6:44:31 PM #16 CDR -1205 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 686
    Burning Layer 1

    6:44:31 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 696
    Start writing layer 1 at address 0 (0h)
    Recording mode: unknown Recording Mode

    6:44:31 PM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9872
    ---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R DL (14), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 2, Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,293 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 22D7FF h (LBN: 1FD7FF h, 4075 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 3 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
    Media type ID: S04
    Product revision number: 1
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 64
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 53 30 34 01 40 ...RITEK...S04.@
    25 25 37 10 00 2C 6C 00 - 2C 6C 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 %%7..,l.,l......
    02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C - 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 ................

    6:44:31 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9872
    ---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R DL (14), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 2, Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,293 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 22D7FF h (LBN: 1FD7FF h, 4075 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 3 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
    Media type ID: S04
    Product revision number: 1
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 64
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 53 30 34 01 40 ...RITEK...S04.@
    25 25 37 10 00 2C 6C 00 - 2C 6C 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 %%7..,l.,l......
    02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C - 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 ................

    6:44:31 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9872
    ---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD+R DL (14), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 2, Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,293 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 22D7FF h (LBN: 1FD7FF h, 4075 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
    Extended Information indicators: 3 h
    Disc Manufacturer ID: RITEK...
    Media type ID: S04
    Product revision number: 1
    Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 64
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B - 00 00 00 53 30 34 01 40 ...RITEK...S04.@
    25 25 37 10 00 2C 6C 00 - 2C 6C 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 %%7..,l.,l......
    02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C - 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 ................

    6:44:31 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 8372
    Drive: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M
    Book Type request [TSST]: DVD-ROM
    Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

    6:44:31 PM #22 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6477
    Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

    6:44:31 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 675
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    6:44:31 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
    Pipe memory size 83836800

    6:53:32 PM #25 CDR -1206 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1969
    Burning Layer 2

    6:53:32 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1980
    Perform layer 1 to 2 jump before writing at address 1908736 (1D2000h)

    7:02:42 PM #27 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
    <E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 3788528 (39CEF0h), length 0 blocks

    7:03:30 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 935
    EndDAO: Last written address 3788528

    7:03:30 PM #29 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
    Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)

    7:03:31 PM #30 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 261
    SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

    7:03:36 PM #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11185
    DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

    7:03:37 PM #32 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
    UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


    Existing drivers:

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
     
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  2. dustonio

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    Any Ideas?...It definately has something to do with the reading speed.
     
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  3. hobbit112

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    I think you're right. From looking at the time stamps it appears you are ripping @ 3.42 megs/sec or roughly 2.4x.

    I know in recode there is a radio button you can check & uncheck for "advanced analysis". Is this an option in Disk Copy(Your log doesn't mention it and I'm not at a 'puter with a DVD burner at the moment)? If so, deselect it. This would definitely increase the read speed.

    I will do some more research when I get in front of a 'puter with a burner.
     
  4. dustonio

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    I tried using the external burner as the reading drive, it's reading at a faster speed and has helped a little but thats still not as fast as before. I think it never used to make a temp file on the hard drive at all. I don't remember the movie ever being auto-ejected from the reading drive like it does now after this "creating image" happens... as if it never really happened before. I read about the 'On the fly' option and i guess it sounds like I used to have something like that going on.

    Nero is telling me my internal drive will only read at 4x... thats definately wrong. It should atleast be 8x. Driver/Firmware version problem maybe?? I've tried looking for updates for it, with no results.
     
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    You have the most current firmware for your drive.

    I didn't find anything in Nero that you can select or deselect to improve performance. The only other thing I can think of is the DMA setting on your drives. Your OS will drop the DMA setting if it starts to encounter read errors.

    Do you know how to see wht the DMA setting is? Here's a guide on how to check and reset the DMA on your system.

    Other than that, I'm stumped. Check your DMA via the guide and let us know what you find. If that doesn't do it, I'll see if I can attract some of the addicts.
     
  6. dustonio

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    I have tried un/reinstalling the IDE Controller and channels. Even tried changing around the drivers for them and got same slow speed or got a "device cannot start properly" error.

    heres some screens of what I see with normal windows install:
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    [​IMG]

    Also here is information on the drive I'm using from PCWizard07:
    General Information :
    IDE Controller : Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi) ALI M5229 EIDE Controller

    Informations CD-Rom QSI CD-RW/DVD-ROM SBW-242 :
    IDE Channel : #2 - Master Drive
    Manufacturer : QSI
    Model : QSI CD-RW/DVD-ROM SBW-242
    Revision : UD30
    Serial ATA : No
    IORDY : Yes
    LBA Mode : Yes
    DMA Mode : Yes
    TCQ Mode : No
    NCQ Mode : No
    Multiword DMA Mode : 2
    PIO Mode : PIO 4
    UDMA Mode max. : 2 (ATA-33)
    UDMA Mode Enabled : 2 (ATA-33)
    Rotation Control : CLV

    CD-R Read : Yes
    CD-RW Reading : Yes
    DVD-Rom Reading : Yes
    DVD-RAM Reading : No
    DVD-R Reading : Yes
    DVD-RW Reading : Yes
    DVD+R Reading : Yes
    DVD+RW Reading : Yes
    DVD+R DL Reading : No
    DVD BD Reading : No
    DVD BD-RE Reading : No
    DVD BD-R Reading : No
    DVD BD-Rom Reading : No
    DVD HD Reading : No

    CD-R Writing : Yes
    CD-RW Writing : Yes
    DVD-RAM Writing : No
    DVD-R Writing : No
    DVD+R Writing : No
    DVD-RW Writing : No
    DVD+RW Writing : No
    DVD+R DL Writing : No
    DVD BD Writing : No
    DVD BD-RE Writing : No
    DVD BD-R Wrting : No
    DVD HD Writing : No
    DVD HD-RW Writing : No

    Mount Rainier (MRW) : No
    Buffer Underrun : Yes
    JustLink : No
    LabelFlash : No
    LightScribe : No
    LightScribe Drive Speed : No
    SolidBurn : No

    Method 2 : Yes
    CD-Audio Support : Yes
    MultiSession or Photo-CD : Yes
    Side Change Capable : No

    Reading CD-Rom : 24x (4226 KB/s)
    Reading DVD-Rom : 8x

    Writing CD-R : 24x (4226 KB/s)
    Writing CD-RW : 14x

    Region Code : Installed
    Region : 0
    User Changes : 4
    Vendor Changes : 4
    RPC Phase II : Yes
     
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  7. hobbit112

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    It appears to me that your DMA is set properly.

    I checked a Recode log of mine where I recoded a DL disk I had already ripped to my HD (I rip to my hd, then burn. Saves me some disks). From the time stamps, it took recode 54 minutes to re-analyse & burn the dl disk. It took 19 minutes to compile the files from my harddrive prior to burning. It took your system 36 minutes to read & compile from your drive. It seems like a big difference but hard drive through-put is faster than dvd drive.

    One thing I didn't ask before, when you re-loaded windows mce, did you reload the same version of Nero you had before?

    (BTW, When I do dls, I generally burn with ImgBurn because you can control the burning speed better than Nero)
     
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