I'm sorry I just have to vent a little. I've been using AnyDVD and DVD Shrink well over a year now with absolutely no problems. I still consider myself a newbie and it was these 2 pieces of software that allowed me to do that. But after this Saw 3 fiasco, I found myself trying 10 different methods with all new software. I finally successfully backed-up my Saw 3 (Full Movie, Menu, Special Features) using the RIPIT4ME method.. And thank you so much to all of you that stated over and over again that was the way to go.. But really where is the Slysoft AnyDVD update already??? Thanks Again Afterdawn!!