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Spoofing and return to stock confusion

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 - Modding & Hacking' started by TonyJer, May 15, 2011.

  1. TonyJer

    TonyJer Regular member

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    Hi
    These issues are connected so please bear with me:
    1. I’m totally confused by the apparent difference between “spoofing” and “just transferring the key etc”. When I spoofed my Benq as a Hit I unlocked the Hit and saved the key then did the same with the Benq, then used the Hit OFW bin in the target and LT 1.2 for Benq in the target and spoofed and the wrote the result to the drive. Was that spoofing or transferring etc. I’m just not crystal clear on the difference.
    2. When I subsequently reflashed my Hit from I Extreme 1.5 to LT +1.1 I obviously had to return it to stock. However, when I reflashed the Benq from LT1.2 to LT+ I did not have to return to stock. Is this just because the Benq was not the original drive? I just thought that you had to return to stock when flashing any previously flashed drives.
    Many thanks
     
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    The definition of "spoof" is to mock/imitate/emulate/etc.

    If you need one drive model (Lite-On) to act as another drive model (Samsung), then you are spoofing, (making the Lite-On mock/imitate/emulate the Samsung).

    If you are flashing any drive with iXtreme firmware, then you are spoofing, (making the iXtreme firmware mock/imitate/emulate the drive's stock firmware).

    If you are swapping a broken drive with a working drive of the same model, then you are simply (as you say, TonyJer) transferring the firmware from one drive to another (the firmware still acts the same).

    It's always been standard procedure to return Hitachi's to stock before re-flashing.
     
  3. TonyJer

    TonyJer Regular member

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    Many thanks

    Really helpful
     
  4. TonyJer

    TonyJer Regular member

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    Sorry

    Just one query on your last example: If you are swapping a broken drive with a working drive of the same model, then you are simply (as you say, TonyJer) transferring the firmware from one drive to another (the firmware still acts the same).

    If the working drive was flashed then I guess you would want the new one to be flashed also so you would have to flash that with LT+ etc etc? I thought this scenario would also constitute spoofing.

    Sorry to be dumb.
     
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    Yep, because you're changing that new drive's firmware from original to iXtreme.
     
  6. TonyJer

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    Hi

    Hence my confusion about the scenario when you would just be "swapping the key" as we seem to have defined most activities as spoofing. I know this sounds ridiculous but it's almost as if we're saying that you have an unflashed drive which dies and you want to replace it with another unflashed drive of the same make.Is that when you just transfer the key?

    Thanks again
     
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    If you ever have to change drives in a 360, you will have to spoof that new drive. Even if it is the same drive type. Think of it this way, every electronics you purchase has it's unique serial number. The same goes for every single DVD drive that is manufactured for the 360. Your console will always be looking for an exact match of the drive. So either you transplant the pcb to your new drive provided it is the same model and it is not the reason for your problems or you would need to spoof another drive to match your old drive.

    Hope that helps.
     
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    It does thanks. It's just that some people still refer to just swapping the key as opposed to spoofing!

    Don't want to waste time going around in circles.
     

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