So I installed the replacement fliptop so I can back up my PS2 games for my little rugrats, and I thought I was going to be in business...boy was I wrong...So I just bought Hot Shots Golf Fore and wanted to back it up and hide the original and well it does not work, being the nice fella that I am I did a little MORE research and came up with some info about DNAS and stuff like that. So once again I have a few questions for you guys on this forum. And hopefully when I backup my first PS2 game, I can actually help boneheads like me in the future. 1.)I have the Swap Magic 3.3 and I had a few questions about the Video Mode when I load up the program. What is the difference between: Normal: PAL: <-----all 3 are greek to me NTSC: If the PS2 game I am trying to back up has DNAS I guess I have to bring out a few more big guns and a few more programs. Disc ID Utility? Can I use this image when I want to retrieve the information for DVD games or just CD games, and obviously if not what can I use for DVD games. Can't find these programs anywhere Image Patcher Disc ID Inserter IsoBuster WinImage Not sure if what I am doing is making this way harder then what it needs to be but if anyone has these programs (or if they are even required) and if its legal to share, please PM me so I can give you my email or whatever to forward them to me. PS> I am working on a DIY (with pictures)for the instalation for the replacement fliptop on a Slim PS2, because when I was looking for one, I could not find one...just have to upload the pics to a server and all should be well.