I have been experiencing the same problems of not being able to burn these two movies either. I havent experienced this with any other movies i tried to burn using dvdxcopy or dvd shrink with decryptor. Im wondering since these are fairly new releases is this going to be a major issue with future releases. Im sure those people who work for the industry, and are coming up with ways to make it difficult to make backup copies are viewing these sites and seeing how well their burn blockers are working. I know we are aware of these new anti-techniques by just reading through the posts that are left from members. I havent tried the anydvd program yetalthough it appears not to work in all cases, but is there and mention or coming up with newer programs to thwart off the attacks?