Alright, I'm the new guy but I've been checking out these posts for quite a while. First up, let me say thanks for all the great info from everyone, it's been very helpful. I too was able to make a perfect backup of Saw 3 using the latest Ripit4me and Fix VTS in 1 click mode. Also, I'm one of the ones disappointed in Slysoft. As with others, I tried backing up Saw 3 with Anydvd 188.8.131.52. It gave me 40 bad sectors and didn't work worth a damn. I've updated to Anydvd 184.108.40.206. I only put in my original copy of Saw 3 just to see if I got the same errors as I did in the previous version. I didn't get the errors, but it kinda locked up on title 7 in DVDClone2. So I didn't even bother trying to back it up through that. I'm curious. Many of you recommend DVDFab. Can you tell me what version? Is it the Platinum, Gold, or the free version? Will it remove Puppetlock, Arccos, Flux, and Ripguard? Any input is appreciated. Even though I'm new to the forum, I'm by no means new to backing up dvds. Thanks to all.