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Trying to back up AOE expansion, Disk read error in the way

Discussion in 'CD-R' started by jp73, Aug 8, 2004.

  1. jp73

    jp73 Guest

    Hello all,

    Here's the problem: I am trying to create a backup copy of AOE expansion, however each time I try to burn it with Alcohol 120 I get numerous disk read errors. I've done some reseach on the matter and it seems that it's due to the copy protection on the game. I was just wondering if that is correct?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi,

    If the disc is protected by SafeDisc then the errors are normal. Just let Alcohol do it's thing :)
     
  3. jp73

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    Okay, I'll let it go through, thanks for the help!
     
  4. 2005

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    id suggest also burnin the game on a cdrw and enable the hide media option in alcohol... if you dont know if or not your drive is EFM capable. That game is a older version of safedisk... if i remember correctly its a 2.8 which is too hard to backup.
     
  5. jp73

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    Alcohol did complete the burn with the safe disk 2/3 option. Despite the disk read errors it did finish. Now I can't use the CD, I get an "Insert the CD in drive x" message. What's up with that? Have to check on the EFM capability. Thanks.
     
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    Hi,

    What make/model is your drive? Capable hardware plays a key role in a successful backup :)
     
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    Im guessing that you dont have a EFM capable drive but it shouldnt matter as you used the safedisk 2/3 data type, just make sure that Ingore media types and bad sector emulation are turned on under emulation and extra emulation in the options on alcohol 120%
     
  8. jp73

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    Drive information from Alcohol:

    Vendor Identification: TDK
    Product Identification: DVDRW0404N
    Production Revision Level: 1.05
    Location: atapi, Port 2, Bus 0, Target 1, Lun 0
    Support recording method: DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB, RAW DAO(96), TAO, DVD DAO
    BURN-Free Technology: BURN-Proof
    Auto-Select best write speed: Not Supported
    -* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
    -* This software does not use this information! *-
    Removable media: Yes
    Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
    Response Data Format: 02h
    CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
    CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
    Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
    Test Write: Yes
    DVD-ROM Read: Yes
    DVD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
    DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
    Audio Play: Yes
    Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
    Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: No
    Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
    Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
    Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
    Multi-Session: Yes
    BUF: Yes
    CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
    CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
    R-W Supported: Yes
    R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
    C2 Pointers Support: Yes
    ISRC Supported: Yes
    UPC Supported: Yes
    Read Bar Code: No
    Lock media into the drive: Yes
    Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
    Prevent Jumper: No
    Eject Command: Yes
    Separate volume levels: Yes
    Separate channel mute: Yes
    Changer Supports Disc Present: No
    Software slot selection: No
    Side change capable: No
    P through W in Lead-In: Yes
    Maximum Read Speed Supported (with current disc): 40X (6000 KB/Sec)
    Maximum Write Speed Supported (with current Disc): 16X (2400 KB/Sec)
    Current Read Speed Supported (with current Disc): 40X (6000 KB/Sec)
    Current Write Speed Supported (with current Disc): 16X (2400 KB/Sec)
     
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    Hi,

    It appears that your TDK is an OEM NEC 1300A which isn't a 2-sheeper (can't write EFM correctly) so you won't be able to make a working copy that doesn't require some sort of emulation.

    The next best thing would be to pick up a good inexpensive 2-sheep CD/RW such as the Lite On 52327S or the Asus 5232AS both of which go for around $30 and are great for backing up games.

    Or you could try 2005's suggestions.
     
  10. jp73

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    I have a few more burners that I'm not sure about, will post in a min.
     
  11. jp73

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    Vendor Identification: TDK
    Product Identification: CDRW4800B
    Production Revision Level: S7S5
    Location: atapi, Port 1, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0
    Support recording method: DAO, RAW DAO(96), TAO
    BURN-Free Technology: SMART-BURN
    Auto-Select best write speed: SMART-BURN
    -* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
    -* This software does not use this information! *-
    Removable media: Yes
    Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
    Response Data Format: 02h
    CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
    CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
    Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
    Test Write: Yes
    DVD-ROM Read: No
    DVD-R Read/Write: No/No
    DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
    Audio Play: Yes
    Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
    Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: Yes
    Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
    Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
    Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
    Multi-Session: Yes
    BUF: Yes
    CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
    CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
    R-W Supported: Yes
    R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
    C2 Pointers Support: Yes
    ISRC Supported: Yes
    UPC Supported: Yes
    Read Bar Code: No
    Lock media into the drive: Yes
    Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
    Prevent Jumper: No
    Eject Command: Yes
    Separate volume levels: Yes
    Separate channel mute: Yes
    Changer Supports Disc Present: No
    Software slot selection: No
    Side change capable: No
    P through W in Lead-In: Yes
    Maximum Read Speed Supported (with current disc): 12X (1800 KB/Sec)
    Maximum Write Speed Supported (with current Disc): 48X (7200 KB/Sec)
    Current Read Speed Supported (with current Disc): 12X (1800 KB/Sec)
    Current Write Speed Supported (with current Disc): 48X (7200 KB/Sec)
     
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    Hi,

    It appears your TDK is an OEM Lite On 48246S which is a definite 2-sheeper so I'd roll with it and see how it goes. Just remember to burn sloooowww, something like 4 or 8X.

    I'd also recommend updating the firmware for it if you haven't done so. Here's a link:


    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?category=6&manufactor=53


    Let us know how you get on :)
     

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