Forget about the boxes for now. Now look at the big con in today TVs sold today.The big thing to come along now is the 3D TV ,HERE is the big thing on this is all TVs sold to date Won't play Sky 3D or Blueray 3D. So most of us have brought Plasma TVs/ LCD TVs/ & the new LED/LCD TVs that inc. FULL HD TVs two.u will need to buy a new Hi-Def 3D TV. because of the type tv panel u will need to view this type of new 3D. Now here is the another thing to is by 2014 there will be a TV with 2,500 line Resolution so called Super HD.TV. & BY 2017 We will have yet another change in TV > Ultra HD.4,000 Line Resolution already use in japan on test. Because our TV Sets only display 1920x1080 line Resolution.(Full hd)So we be off to buy another tv set in a short while.The only HD stations in England with free tv channels are BBC HD/ ITV HD & LUXE HD. THE Rest u paid from Sky & the other Providers .these HD TVs sets are out along while now & yet we in Ireland have no HD from our own national tv service network. Are they waiting to see what happening to what is comming along after 2012, so we be left high and dry with our out of date TVs. SO I SAY it a big con job of yet another money racket on the market today. what do think on this Lads.