used dvd shrink and downloaded nero as i read in the forum.so after 2hrs. of downloading 26 mb (yes still dial up. i proseeded to install and use and when it came up i clicked on demo it said my demo version had expired.im thinking wow that was quick. so i went to the serial # link and that said i could order the serial # for $70.00 so my question is does anyone have an extra serial # layin around lol.seriously wish someone would have mentioned this before the 2hr "free" download.so is the nero i downloaded worthless then or is there any hope. and by the way this is the best web site ever. ive never seen a web site so informative about anything let alone cd's and dvd's completely impressed. thank you for having me here!