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Using CD-R's as DVD's? Is This Bad?

Discussion in 'DVD±R media' started by Flibber, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Flibber

    Flibber Member

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    My problem is I have a Cue and Bin file that I'm trying to convert to stand alone DVD player. I have Alcohol 120% and Nero 6 Ultra Edition. I also have Daemon Tools, VCDGear, TEMPGEnc, SVCD2DVD and MPGTX. So, I think I have enough tools to transfer *something*.

    Playing or making playable CD's on my comp is no problem viewing with WinDVD 4. I get different types of files after I convert and knowing that double conversion is double bad. I could just settle with CD's that are playable in my laptop, but now i'm determined. So after 3 days of non-stop post searching, I can't seem to find anything definative. Everyone says there's more than one way to skin a cat and I have enough cat pelts to make a comforter.

    Here's what I'm doing. Take the Bin file and run it through Nero to get my folders with the DAT file or I could just use Daemon to "mount" it and Snag the .DAT file. Then I run that through VCDGear(TMPGEnc does the same thing, I believe) to get an MPEG file. Take that because it's too *Big* for a regular CD and cut it in half with MPGTX. Then take each MPEG and run it through SVCD2DVD to make a "front end", then take all these new files... It creates Audio and Video TS folders. The Video has VOB, BUP, IFO, etc., and drop them into nero's "Mini DVD" setting and I get a perfect UDF file.

    None of which(any file type) will play on my (generic)Panasonic or my (picky)Denon DVD players(and my Denon plays mp3's, Kodak Pic Disk and WMA). Since I don't have DVD's or a writer, I assumed CD's could do the same job, just smaller size movies. I use Sony 700mb CD's and writing at 20x to keep my buffer high. My UDF CD's auto start my WinDVD with my "front end" perfectly but I'm missing something. I use the default settings with all the programs.

    If any ideas you have work, I will kiss you on the lips.
     
  2. bbmayo

    bbmayo Active member

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    You won't be able to play CD's in any Stand alone DVD player that I am aware of (Not in the DVD Format). Your DVD player uses different lasers to read each disk format be it CD or DVD. The player then decodes the MPEG2 format from a DVD and process it for you to be able to view the movie. I would guess your CD laser will not be able to process this information in the same way. Do yourself a favor and invest $30 in a DVDRW drive and this will be much less painfull for you.
     
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  3. Flibber

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    See, now that's the kind of info I'm looking for! Simple, to the point.

    What about VCD? SVCD? aren't these just like VHS? can I not create a playable disk that is of that format? even if it doesn't exceed the size limit of the CD? When I get the MPEGAV folders after Nero chews up the Bin file, Can my DVD player even look through the folders? or is it only able to read the 1 gig file named "PLAY.exe"?(so to speak)

    I'll get the writer, but i'm still perplexed...
     
  4. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    There are some DVD players that can play DVD files on a CD, but they're by far the exception. Most players, especially better (more expensive) ones, won't even look for DVD files once they determine that the media is a CD. Even if your player does handle this correctly you'll probably be limited to less than half the bitrate allowed by the DVD specs. I used to have a player that would do this, and to be honest it stopped being worth playing around with as soon as the price of blank DVDs came down far enough.

     
  5. Flibber

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    Thanks Vurbal, It's always cheap bastards like me that always look into doing the absolute maximum with the utmost minimums. Since I didn't have a DVD writer I assumed you could just as easily do the deed with a CD.

    I'm off to get the cheapy at Wallyworld! The cheapy "Dual Layer" that is...;)
     
  6. Flibber

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    I do have a couple of issues with files though. If an Mpeg file is formatted for PAL, do I need to re-convert it to NTSC? I also tried to convert an .AVI to Mpeg and got a convert time of about 30 hours later using TMPNGEnc plus 2.5... I don't think I can hang on that long. That was using default settings. I guess AVI's are full figured...
     

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