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Video Card Thread (Mostly Gecube x1950xt)

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by Waymon3X6, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. DInc

    DInc Regular member

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    If it's still low performance, it's probably something else of your computer.
    And if you want you can just pick a higher frequency (Hz) for your resolution.
    I don't think it's got anything to do with performance, just the refreshing of your monitor.
    However, do first see what you monitor can handle.
    But I recommend the highest frequency possible because it's easier on your eyes, won't wear you out as much and it doesn't flicker as much.
    You don't really see it, but you will notice it when you go back from a higher to a lower frequency.
    What kind of a change it makes I mean...
     
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    Yea, just played it and got a shitty 20 fps high... I was at the TV station, and alot of stuff was happening to (maybe that was the problem for the bad frames?)
     
  3. DInc

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    No way man, I can get more with 6800XT, we're being ripped off.
    What's the rest of you system?
     
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    2048x1536 max detail, Anti-aliased, Anisotropic filtered,
    X850XT: 30.6fps.
    Something's wrong!
     
  5. DInc

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    Yeah, and what the hell is?! 8|
     
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    sammorris Senior member

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    An identical thread at tom's hardware contains:
     
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    UPDATE, FOR ALL WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE X1950XT AGP

    It seems that a lot of AGP motherboards, due to their age, have difficulty dealing with the bandwidth involved. This seems to be fixable with a BIOS update. If that fails, try a BIOS downgrade.
     
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    Ok, will try that...

    Only thing is that I dont know how... I have the same BIOS version from when I got this computer 4 years ago, so there is definetly new versions out there...

    Can someone help me out?

    THanks
     
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    What's the motherboard?
    (I'm off to bed now, so I won't be able to reply any more until tomorrow)
     
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    (in my sig)

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    So when you would update the BIOS it could take more bandwidth all of a sudden?
    That's a bit weird since it seems like the bandwidth it can take is in the hardware itself.

    But yeah, Everest says my BIOS is more than 2 years old (probably from 2004 or something) and I should update it I think it said.
    But I've also read a bunch of times I shouldn't do that if I don't have problems.
    So I mean, could I get problems with things that work fine right now when I update?
     
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    Well I just updated mine... Works fine

    I am on the Beta version though, since ASUS didnt have a final product out yet...

    Ill try BF2 on low 1024/768 60mhz and get back in about ten minutes to tell you the results..
     
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    Ok, just played it and what an improvment!!!

    Now I get about 50-70fps!!!!

    It stutters once in a great while (like 2 times in 20 minutes)

    That was on low though, so I think I'll try to crank up the settings..

    Oh yea, 100% view distance too... (Im a sniper...)

     
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    PS, what do you guys think of the Thermaltake Tide Water cooler?

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    Looks good, good reviews...

    I dont want a fan cooler anymore, to loud...

    I was thinkin about mounting it on the outside of my case... (since temps inside get to about 86F)
     
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    Oh yeah, the view distance...
    You should always keep that at 100% so you can see enough.
    Sure it would probably cut down stress on the graphics, but it will put you at disadvantage in gameplay.
    Even some other settings will also make you not able to see certain things when on Low or even Medium sometimes.
    I can you that you want Geometry on High since it will make you see things like vehicles sooner/farther.
    But Medium is still ok, I can play with it anyways and I don't even zoom that much cause I'm not a Sniper much.

    For the cooler, you mean for a GPU or CPU?
    Well, either way, Zalmans seem good to me.
    The cooling, but also the low noise, the most noise you'll hear from it is the wind an a slightly fan-noise.
    But you can set the speed balancing performance and noise.
    The balance between price and performance is good too, not too expensive.
    Depends on the store of course...

    I'm not familiar with water-cooling, I don't think it's really easy to build into your system?
    Well, unless you already have partial water-cooling, I guess you can add more for other devices and you already know how it works then.
     
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    Yea well the thing that I want (thermaltake Tide Water) is its own little "box"... It has the pump, radiator, and all the other things built into it, so It cant support things like your whole system.

    This is for the GPU, I allready have a Zalman cooler on the CPU. Besides, the TEC cooler that came with the card is just big.

    It actully isnt really as bad as people say it is after some tweaking. I looked in ATi Tool and saw that the fans were only set to 4% before it got to 50C, then they went to 25... I set the fans to run at 100% all the time and right now it is at 39C!

    Btw, my whole system is air cooled...
     
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    Yeah, mine too, I've even opened up the exhausting fans.
    Meaning, the side-fan had this grill which was to prevent dust coming in.
    But I made that fan blow outwards and removed the grill because of obstruction.
    Also usually in most cases there is a part drilled out, you know holes to let through air for a fan.
    I just sawed it all out, it's just purging out air unlike before the change.
    So really make sure nothing is obstructing anywhere, as much as you can.


    Could you tell me where exactly I can find the card's fan-controls or indications even?
    I can't seem to find anything, and it sounds like it's not making enough noise to be turning 100%.
     
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    Just be advises the Tide Water uses the same loud fan as the stock cooler. it probably won't be any quieter, just get better temps. Do you trust Thermaltake to build a watercooler? Some of their stuff (notably fans) are pretty shoddy. the PSUs are alright (especially the ones that Thermaltake don't actually produce lol)
    Either watercool it properly, or get a Zalman cooler.
    I would say get the astonishingly good Thermalright HR-03, but the X1950XT AGP is just one card that it's not compatible with, partly due to the stupid cooler they put on it in the first place.
     
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    I used ATi Tool. There is a optioon under "settings" that you can change the fans to try to make the card stay at a certain temperature (you can set this), you can change the fans so that if, for example the GPU is at 50C, you can make the fans be at 85%, 90% or whatever, and you can make the fans always operate at a certain percentage. (Mine is 100%)
     
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    Not one to care about noise eh?
    What's interesting is that you're only 20mhz on the core away from my card, but you're 171mhz(x2) away on the memory. I wonder if the X1950XT and X1900XT are similar but for the choice of memory.
     

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