First, let thank everyone for all the tips. I have a 850 mgz Athlon with 384 meg of ram, winxp home and a plextor 708a dvd + - r/rw, cd-r/rw. I am using the latest version of DVD Shrink and dvdDecryter. With my new Plextor came Roxio easy cd creator 6. I updated the firmware for this software. After reading your message board I changed my file system from fat32 to ntfs. Double checked and my file system is in fact ntfs. Just when the file is almost ripped this error message appears, "vts_01_4.vob" there is not enough space on disk. I have two hard drives, internal/exernal both 40 gig,free space 30 gig nad 8.5 gig. I get this message with every dvd I try to rip. Any ideas?