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  1. goddes1

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    THANK YOU!
     
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    MORE INFO

    Certain Online Behaviors Put Teens at Risk

    February 5, 2007 01:55:35 PM PST
    By Amanda Gardner
    HealthDay Reporter
    Yahoo! Health: Children's Health News

    MONDAY, Feb. 5 (HealthDay News) -- It's a brave new World Wide Web, and parents may not always be doing all they can to protect their kids from the Internet.

    A new study has found that teens who converse with strangers online are more likely to fall prey to online harassment than teens who share their personal information on the Web.

    And teens who behave aggressively are also at higher risk of online "interpersonal victimization."

    "Sending and posting personal information online may not increase one's risk for Internet victimization as much as meeting people online in lots of different ways, talking about sex with people known only online, and harassing others (i.e., making rude or mean comments, intentionally embarrassing or harassing others) online," said study lead author, Michele Ybarra, president of Internet Solutions for Kids, in Irvine, Calif.

    "In many cases, what we see to be most influential in explaining the likelihood of Internet victimization is a pattern of these 'risky' behaviors instead of individual behaviors alone," she said.

    The study is published in the February issue of Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine.

    Dr. Dimitri Christakis, author of an editorial accompanying the study, added, "Because of the 'digital divide,' most parents tend to get really scared and feel powerless over how to protect their children.

    "But there are many real things that parents can do to make sure technology serves their children's best interest," added Christakis, director of the Child Health Institutes at the University of Washington, Seattle.

    According to the article, about 9 percent of children who use the Internet are targets of harassment, and 13 percent are targets of unwanted sexual solicitation every year. Harassment and unwanted sexual solicitation are considered forms of online interpersonal victimization.

    An estimated 90 percent of American children go online, according to the researchers.

    Internet safety guidelines often stress not sharing personal information or talking with strangers online. But these recommendations aren't based on empirical evidence.

    The authors of the study analyzed data from a 2005 telephone survey involving 1,497 American children aged 10 to 17. All participants had used the Internet at least once a month for the past six months. About half of the respondents were female and slightly more than three-quarters identified themselves as white. Most came from well-educated households with high annual incomes.

    "This is a very good snapshot of kids in that age group who are using the Internet and what their experience really is," Christakis said. "They [the researchers] used the best method for assessing, and they did a very good job. There hasn't actually been a study like this of this size."

    At issue for the study were nine online behaviors believed to increase the risk of online victimization. The behaviors were: putting personal information online; sending personal information online; harassing or embarrassing someone; making rude or nasty comments; meeting someone online; having people known only online on a buddy list; talking about sex with someone known only online; purposely visiting an X-rated Web site; and downloading images from a file-sharing program.

    Seventy-five percent of the respondents reported engaging in at least one of the nine online behaviors. More than one in four, or 28.2 percent, reported engaging in four or more of the behaviors.

    Teens who engaged in four types of behavior were 11 times more likely to have been victimized than those reporting none of the behaviors, the study found.

    Aggressive behavior in the form of making rude or nasty comments increased the odds of being victimized 2.3 times; frequently embarrassing others increased the risk almost 5 times; meeting people in multiple ways increased the odds 3.4 times; talking about sex online with strangers doubled the risk.

    According to the study authors, most Internet safety messages are on target, but sharing personal information seems to be less of an issue than discouraging risky behaviors.

    "Just as you need to know who your kids are with and where they are in the offline world, know who they are talking with and what they are doing in the online world," Ybarra recommended. "Take time to understand their world online and appreciate the importance that self-expressive behaviors online (e.g., having a profile on social networking sites) have for some youth. Our findings suggest that simply having a posting or sending personal information are not the types of behavior to be concerned about. On the other hand, talking about sex with people known only online is."

    Christakis advised parents to know how their children are using the Internet -- including visiting a child's "MySpace" account and making sure computers are in a public place in the house.

    "The Internet shouldn't be perceived as being all bad or all good. The real problem is that it's both," Christakis said. "It's an incredibly powerful tool and, if it's used appropriately, it can be a very good thing for children. But, if it's misused, it's potentially dangerous."

    More information

    The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has more on the Children's Internet Protection Act.

    http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/cipa.html
     
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  3. Auslander

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    then why is it illegal to have certain abortions, to beat your children, to sexually molest them, and to starve them?

    citizens have a variety of rights, regardless of age. actually, when you think about it, you have all your rights at any age and then gain privileges (at least here in the States) as you age (driving, voting, drinking, etc).

    a bit more off topic: the right to privacy is being removed gradually for everyone, not just children. for some reason, everyone seems to lie down and take it. "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about"...yeah, my arse.
     
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    Since when do people have the right to sexually molest, beat, and starve their children? I don't live in a country that gives that right, please show me where that law is written. I'm all for a parent giving a child a spanking, but beating is wrong.

    And driving is a privilege, NOT a right, there is a difference.
     
  5. Auslander

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    exactly. saying that children have no rights before 18 means that you can legally do whatever you want to them until they turn 18.

    and *read* what i wrote. don't just skim it, as you completely misinterpret my argument and find yourself agreeing with me. i called driving a privilege. same as voting, etc. felons have the *privilege* of voting removed and have to petition to regain it, as do drivers who lose that privilege. isn't it wonderful to have a democracy where one can be denied what is considered a right because some have dubbed it a privilege?

    look at all things equally, either with complete value or no value. picking and choosing destroys a system.
     
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    Saying that children have no rights before they are 18 does not give people the right to do whatever they want. That's why there are laws, for people to not do things to children or to anyone else for that matter. It's interesting that as a child I had the same beliefs and opinions that you do now...then...I grew up and had children of my own.
     
  7. Auslander

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    not saying that something is illegal is equivalent to it being legal in the eyes of the law. that's part of freedom. unless you have an explicit law guaranteeing something one way or the other, there's no limit to what you can do.
     
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    Nowt wrong with you modding your PSP, and as for the other stuff you do in your spare time I can see no problem. The way I see it if you know that you are safe as long as your hurting no one then your adult enough to do that thing you want to do (don't ya just love dark alex though).

    I am a single parent, I give my kids as much freedom as they want. I have one rule, if they F it up then the freedom goes with it, every kid is different just as every adult is.
     
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    Most US kids have seen online porn

    p2pnet.net News:- Almost half of US children aged between 10 to 17 said they saw pornography online, says a study quoted by Bloomberg News.

    Boys accounted for 80% of "wanted exposure" and more than a third of male Net users aged between 16 and 17 said they visited pornographic sites on purpose, says the story.

    "About 80 percent of those exposed said pornography was displayed during unrelated searches, sometimes as the result of a misspelled word, or during downloads, the study said," it also states. "One in five intentionally entered an X-rated site without realizing they would be disturbed by its contents, the researchers said."

    Children who "sought pornography were significantly more likely to engage in rule-breaking, and to be withdrawn or depressed," says the story.

    Youth is a euphemism, Bloomberg has feminist author and legal scholar Catharine MacKinnonsaying. "Boys are receiving most, but not all of the exposure, and most boys are so exposed. Gender matters and is largely ignored here.''

    "As for further research, it would be important to pursue the suggestions in existing clinical literature that children who are exposed to pornography can experience the same trauma, with the same consequences for them as adults, as if they witnessed the acts live,'' she states.

    "No one learns respect for women from consuming pornography.''

    . Slashdot Slashdot it!

    Also See:
    Bloomberg News - Porn Viewed By Almost Half of Kids, Often Mistakenly, February 5, 2007
    http://p2pnet.net/story/11234?PHPSESSID=e97ab3fce135b70f905dc5

    the main story


    Porn Viewed By Almost Half of Kids, Often Mistakenly (Update2)

    By Elizabeth Lopatto

    Feb. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Almost half of U.S. children ages 10 to 17 said they saw pornography online in the year before they were surveyed, a study says.

    About 80 percent of those exposed said pornography was displayed during unrelated searches, sometimes as the result of a misspelled word, or during downloads, the study said. One in five intentionally entered an X-rated site without realizing they would be disturbed by its contents, the researchers said.

    Filtering software, such as programs made by McAfee Inc. and NET Nanny Software International Inc., reduced the risk of unwanted exposure, as did educational presentations by law enforcement officials, the researchers said. The study is being published in the February issue of Pediatrics.

    ``I think we wrongly assume that kids know what pornography is,'' said Janis Wolack, a researcher at the University of New Hampshire and the study's lead author, in a Feb. 2 telephone interview. ``Kids have an idea about it, but they don't necessarily know what they're going to see.''

    The study was conducted using a telephone survey done between March and June 2005 across the U.S. Because the exposure was self-reported, some youths may have ``characterized exposure incidents as unwanted because they were embarrassed to admit they sought out such material,'' the researchers said.

    The study found that children who sought pornography were significantly more likely to engage in rule-breaking, and to be withdrawn or depressed. Offline victimization, such as bullying, was found to be correlated with seeking pornography.

    Gender a Factor

    Boys accounted for eighty percent of wanted exposure to pornography in the study and more than one third of male internet users between 16 and 17 years old said they visited pornographic sites on purpose.

    ```Youth,' as usual, is a euphemism,'' said Catharine MacKinnon, a leading feminist author and legal scholar, in an e- mail on Feb. 2. ``Boys are receiving most, but not all of the exposure, and most boys are so exposed. Gender matters and is largely ignored here.''

    The study did not look at long-term effects of pornography on children, said Wolak.

    ``A lot of kids aren't very upset by what they might accidentally see, but we did see them being afraid to tell their parents, because they were afraid they'd be blamed by their parents,'' she said. ``In some cases we saw, they were.''

    Younger children did tend to be more distressed than older children, she said.

    Exposure to law enforcement education programs seemed to protect kids from unwanted pornography better than conversations with parents, according to study data. This was probably because the conversations with parents were taking place after the children saw porn, rather than before, Wolak said.

    `Embarassing'

    ``I think with teenagers, unfortunately, it's easier to say we should communicate than to do it,'' said Amanda Lenhart, a senior research specialist with the Pew Internet and American Life Project in a telephone interview Feb 2. ``It's really embarrassing, and not just for kids.'' She suggested that parents closely monitor their children's computer use.

    Playboy Inc., publisher of the most widely read men's magazine, said the company employed a number of precautions to prevent minors from accessing its online contents, including ``access to the parental control device CyberSitter for members directly on our site,'' Linda Marsicano, the Vice President of Corporate Communication in an e-mailed statement on Feb. 2.

    The Chicago-based company recently acquired the Club Jenna site from porn star Jenna Jameson.

    `Blocking Software'

    ``A lot of people have access to blocking software, but grownups can't figure out how to use them,'' said Dorn Checkley, the director of the Pittsburgh Coalition Against Pornography and WholeHearted.org. ``Ultimately, grownups just need to stop using all this pornography. It's because the grownup market is so strong that teenagers have access to it.''

    ``The take-away message is that we need to take this problem seriously and not over-react,'' Wolak said, noting that her study did not monitor the long-term effects on children.

    ``As for further research, it would be important to pursue the suggestions in existing clinical literature that children who are exposed to pornography can experience the same trauma, with the same consequences for them as adults, as if they witnessed the acts live,'' MacKinnon said. ``No one learns respect for women from consuming pornography.''

    To contact the reporter on this story: Elizabeth Lopatto in New York at elopatto@bloomberg.net
    Last Updated: February 5, 2007 14:28 EST
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aCU.j_4XfRi8&refer=us
     
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    well I am new to this website but I know how you feel I am a mother of tripplet boys and they have access to the internet but with all the crazies out there you have to know what your kids are into...it is not a privacy issue because it is their welfare that is at risk here and now a days you have to go the extra mile to asure that your children are safe from all predetors out there every year it seems that they are all coming out of the woodwork..and perhaps your parents made you think that you were not being watched but I am sure in their own way they were. and that is why you are still here and in fine presence of yourself.. I feel that we should do all we must to protect our families form all who would do them harm and if knowing what they are doing at all times is what needs to be done so be it...My boys can only log on when I am there and I am always looking over their shoulder to see what they are doing and they are fine young boys who know I don't do this to be aggravating or anyoying in any way but to protect then from what could be lurking around the next web page...perhaps someday when those of you that do not have any children as of yet will understand and know what it is like to fight all the bads in the world just to make sure that all the good can be safe....well my hat to you goddess and may you find your way to ensuring that your kids welfare is safe....
     
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    @goddes1

    By the way, my parents patrol me day and night. I still find many ways of doing things that i do not wish for them to see. If your kids are the least bit as smart as you say they are the key-logger will only last a short period because they will find a way around it( such as downloading an Anti-keylogger and such things).
     
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    @goddes1

    Well I'm not a kid and my 25 year old daughter just moved out and is doing just fine. She had full reign of her pc growing up. I'm sure I would probably not be proud of what she may have seen at times. My Mom would have probably not been proud of what I read and did in my youth at times either. I had my freedom growing up and I gave my daughter hers. Privacy is a right as far as I'm concerned. Would you read your daughter's diary? Probably.

    Just remember "Kids can do the same things they do late at night in privacy, at anytime of the day."

    Are you trying to prevent the same things you did as a kid? Kids have to have life experiences to mature as they should. It all starts with parenting responsibly. Not wardening!

     
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    amen, garmoon. thank you.
     
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    Well said garmoon. :)
     
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    OK guys. Everyone has made their point. Something I have not mentioned... my children are 10 and 11... just getting into the instant messaging thing with their friends and an online game. I cannot stand behind them every momemt watching them. As a mother, I have a million things to do in a day. They do not know that the program s there and they are so far not even going onto sites or doing anyhing computer wise that is alarming me. If something I don;t like happens on the computer I am alerted and I can have a conversation with my children about it. I have content control on my computer and pop up blockers, but sometimes things get through. Some things I would like to approach on a case by case basis. I'm just not going to walk up to my son and tell him to not look up Ti** and A** on the computer. And by the way, the ONLY reason I would ever read my daughter's diary would be if there was serious concern for her well-being and she wasn't takling to me, but as of now my children know they can tell me everything and ask questions about everything and believe me THEY HAVE.
     
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    Then where's the need for all this privacy invading? You seem to have it under wraps from what you just said above...
     
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    goddes1, well at 10 and 11 kids don't make the right choice sometimes and i understand what your doing and your doing the right thing so keep it up. this site is sometimes over ran by kids that have no clue on what it takes to raise children nowadays so don't pay attention to them lol. the won't get it till they have childern
     
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    what 10 and 11-year-olds go on pr0n??

    well... i kinda understand the 11-year-old. but 10!?
     
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    problem with that for me, my dad works the IT Department for the local Club Car. Not saying he would need to check! XD
     
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    well... just take the hard drive with you where ever you go. isn't it obvious?
     

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