ok, the set out is: I have my xbox flashed with xtreme 5.2 I have 4 backed up games, for now they will be refered to as game 1,2,3 and 4. All games are on verbatim dvd+r dl. Games 1 and 2 were burnt at a speed of 2.4x and 3 and 4 at a speed of 4x. The program used was img burn v2.3.0. All games had a .dvd file that was used in the process with the burner being used an Aopen DUW1616. As far as im aware all games were pre patched. Now here is where the problem seems to occur. Only game 3 works. Game 3 plays fine boots loads saves all the rest of it. Game 1 and 4 do nothing, dont even boot, comes up unreadable disc etc. Game 2 boots for about 5 seconds, then says the disc is unreadable. But all games have appeared in my games list, making me assume that they are burnt right (?). Ok.... so all that happens, now here comes the headfu*k, this is all on the firmware version 5.2C , i tried on D, all 4 games dead, I tried on A games 1 & 2 load up for about 15 seconds each, menu etc. then come up unreadable disc. Game 3 however, doesnt work atall. ??? I'm really really confused with this problem, anyone have any ideas or had anything similar happen?