I've had a Maddog DVD+/-R +/-RW +R dual layer drive since Christmas 2003, yet as I look at all the Sunday ads for Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc etc each week, they continue to push (market) the Dual layer drives *but* never sell the DL media. I'm even tired of going to these stores and asking "when will you get DL media in". The sales folks always reply with that same look, like if you were talk to a dog. I once heard that Newegg offered them at something like $10/disk. Seems to me either the marketing folks are holding back on the USA market?