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Why won't 16X dvd media work with dvd shrink?

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by elohssa, Apr 16, 2007.

  1. elohssa

    elohssa Guest

    I just recently bought Memorex single layer dvd-r media 16x. I don't think I ever used 16X media before w/Dvd Shrink. Is 16X media compatible w/ Dvd Shrink? When I try this media I get a "burn error."

    the burn error reads as follows:



    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 8:18:06 PM
    Nero API version: 6.3.0.3
    Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
    Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
    Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
    Recorder: <MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9> Version: 2.FA - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : MAXTOR 6L040J2 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1200JB-00GVA0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9 D: CDRom0
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 511MB (523760kB)
    Free physical memory: 181MB (186008kB)
    Memory in use : 64 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    16.4.2007
    NeroAPI
    3:34:07 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    3:34:07 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    3:34:07 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    DVD-Video files sorted

    3:34:07 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    3:34:07 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    3:34:07 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    3:34:07 PM #7 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    3:34:42 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2272138 (504:55.13, 4437MB)

    3:34:42 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    3:34:42 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
    Recorder: MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: RITEKF - 1
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    3:34:42 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
    Insert empty disc to write to.
    (Medium in drive: unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Dual Layer.)

    3:34:42 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2272139 (2272139) = #2272139/504:55.14
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2272139 blocks [MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9 ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    3:34:42 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3796
    Can only write at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s) instead of 6x (8,310 KB/s) to current disc.

    3:34:42 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
    Prepare recorder [MAD DOG MD-16XDVD9 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4653340672, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    2272139 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    3:34:42 PM #15 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    Caching of files started

    3:34:42 PM #16 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
    Cache writing successful.

    3:34:42 PM #17 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    Caching of files completed

    3:34:42 PM #18 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

    3:34:42 PM #19 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    3:34:42 PM #20 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    3:34:42 PM #21 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19487
    Set BUFE: supported -> ON

    3:34:42 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    3:34:42 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Media Specific:
    60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 `...0@P...!.....
    02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    3:34:42 PM #24 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1171
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x22 0xAB 0x90 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    3:34:42 PM #25 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Illegal disc

    3:34:42 PM #26 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

    3:34:42 PM #27 Phase 38 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 253
    Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 12/20/2004 2:37:14 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

    Registry Keys:
     
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  2. dialysis1

    dialysis1 Regular member

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    It has nothing to do with Shrink.

    Burning 16X Memorex at 2.4X in not good either.
    Get better media and try burning at 8X.
     
  3. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    This looks more like a firmware issue. Here's your drive,and 2.FA looks like the latest update and it was released back on Oct 13,2006:



    http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1906


    Since this drive is a rebadged NEC 3500AG,you may be able to go over to cdfreaks.com and find a way to crossflash it to the ligitimate NEC 3500AG firmware. Try cdfreaks.com/dvd-rw drives/NEC.

    Or pick up some verbatim -16x media.They've been around a while,so your firmware should have a better chance of being able to handle them.

    If going with verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media,bump that burn speed to 4x or 8x. Slow burning on them can cause issues.

    BTW: Please edit out your nero serial #'s at the top of the log.
     
  4. PacMan777

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    From what I saw Saugmon is right on it being a firmware-media issue. It doesn't appear to be a matter of quality this time. Ritek is usually decent media. It's good to see Memorex selling better than what they have been recently. But older drives with old firmware have a tendency to have problems with some of the newer 16X media. Hopefully some Verbatim will take care of the problem. However it goes though, it isn't Shrink causing the problem. Get media the drive can handle and the problem should be solved.
     
  5. elohssa

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    how do I change the burn speed to 8X? I looked around on shrink and nero and didn't see anywhere to change it, sorry but I am kind of a novice at this stuff.
     
  6. born2ride

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    in shrink when you click backup then the tab that says burn setting.
    have to look for nero
    this was at going into recode then burn
    what nero do you have?

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  7. elohssa

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    I appreciate your help. I think I will try different media that is NOT 16X. I looked at the firmware stuff and it seems to be over my head, and I don't won't to screw anything up worse than it already is.
     
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    i think pretty much everything in stores is probably 16x rated now,
    buying online would be the place to look.

    edit
    here are some sites
    supermediastore.com
    rima.com
    meritline.com
     
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  9. saugmon

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    Also try Sam's club is there's any around you. They usually carry the older speed media. Bestbuy is a good source for the 4x verbatim digital movie quality discs.

    Keep that crossflashing in mind. The members of cdfreaks.com know their stuff when it comes to crossflashing drives.
     
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    elohss
    If your going to buy a new one. why not flash it first.
    if i flashed my drive and did not screw it up anyone can do it.when it comes to a pc i am lost most of the time. thats why we have AD to help.
     
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  12. elohssa

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    You have a good point. A lot of it comes down to time also. I would rather spend $50 on a new drive versus spending 5 hours reading and teaching myself how to flash. Maybe I am making it harder than it has to be, I don't know.
     
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    when i flashed my nec 1100a to a 1300a there where no guides but it when pretty smoothly. i do recall sometime with adding winrar to complete it. i still do not understand it fully .i just know it was not to bad after all said and done 2hrs invested
     
  14. saugmon

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    Another drive would be a good route. You can still use that maddog burner as the reader and the new burner strictly for burning. This will eliminate a lot of wear and tear off your new burner.

    Also makes an easier backup process-set it and forget it. Or you can even try On The Fly without ripping to your harddrive/s.

    I've seen Lite-ons going for under $35 including shipping at newegg.com.
     
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    That's a good point about using my Mad Dog as a reader. My next question was going to be what brand/model is a good burner to use with spending a lot of money? I burn single and dual layer media. Are the Lite-Ons good burners w/o spending much $.
     
  16. saugmon

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    Lite-ons are pretty decent drives. All the latest drives are 18x and dvd-ram capability,so I'm not up to what the HOT model #'s.

    Liteon are booktyping capable drives. I'm a benq fanatic,but they are no longer made,but I am well stocked up.Plextor also another great brand,but they do have a few rebadged models. All these drives have bitsetting capability to booktype the plus format media (+R/+RW/+R DL) to dvd-rom. This booktyping gives your backups a lot better chance at being recognized in more dvd drives.

    With the price of DL media coming down,more people may get no disc errors when trying to play their DL backups on their standalones. By booktyping,you're fooling players into thinking the are the original disc which is dvd-rom format.

    Lots of firmware updates for Lite-on as well. Some brands- (HP) issue no firmware updates after releasing drives.

     
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    When spending a lot of money I suggest the Plextor. I've got a 716 and think highly of it. For the more frugally minded the Lite-On is a decent brand. You'll find most of the name brands are, HP, Sony, LG, Samsung, BenQ and the like. You just have to be sure they have all the features you want, such as booktyping.

    saugmon
    I've got a 740 HP in one of my PCs. I updated the firmware shortly after getting it. It's been a long time with no more firmware upgrades. However the drive is still working great and I've not had any problems. I'm happy with it, even if it was to go bad now. Knock on wood. It's been a good burner and an even better reader. It has been one of the burners to disprove ROMs read better.
     
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  18. saugmon

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    My HP 640c is a very good reader,no complaints there.

    Lightscribe-decent after downloading the lightscribe ELCU utility to help enhance the image.

    Burning-No more. Way too many crc errors on the few maxell hitachi and verbatim backups from it.

    No firmware updates since the day I got it bundled with my HP PC.
     
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    I suspect your main burner is the Plex 716. Mine gets the duty most of the time, especially when burning video. Looks like we have similar hardware and use it for the same purposes. What did you use to scan the HP for CRC errors?
     
  20. saugmon

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    I didn't use the HP to scan for errors. I found another easy effective way to test your backups-by re-ripping them back to the harddrive.

    What good is a backup if you need to re-rip them later on and they were full of crc errors?
     

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