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Win98SE 4GB Limit problem.

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by SIO, Aug 20, 2004.

  1. SIO

    SIO Member

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    I am using Win98SE on a 1.0 Gig Athlon CPU
    I am using Pine and ProMedia DVD-R media.

    I am using DVD Decrypter 3.2.3.0
    The read mode produced a MDS file and an ISO file. I used the MDS file as the Source.

    I understand that the MDS file is created by DVD Decrypter in order to paste the two files that it makes so that it will be under 4 gigs when it writes.

    I don't have much experience in making DVDs. So what is going wrong?

    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 1.30
    Current Profile: DVD-ROM

    Disc Information:
    Status: Complete
    Erasable: No
    Sessions: 1
    Sectors: 1,807,351
    Size: 3,701,454,848 bytes
    Time: 401:40:01 (MM:SS:FF)
    Supported Write Speeds: 1x, 2x, 4x

    Pre-recorded Information:
    Manufacturer ID: LONGTEN 001

    Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
    Book Type: DVD-R
    Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
    Number of Layers: 1
    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
    Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track


    I 07:15:48 DVD Decrypter Version 3.2.3.0 started!
    I 07:15:48 Microsoft Windows 98 SE
    W 07:15:48 Drive C: (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
    W 07:15:48 Drive D: (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
    I 07:15:48 Initialising ASPI...
    I 07:15:48 WNASPI32.DLL - Adaptec's ASPI Layer - ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL - Version 4.6.0.1019
    I 07:15:48 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 07:15:48 Found 1 CD-ROM and 1 DVD-RW!
    I 07:19:21 Operation Started!
    I 07:19:21 Source Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 1.30 (E:)
    I 07:19:21 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
    I 07:19:21 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    I 07:19:21 Source Copyright Protection System Type: None
    I 07:19:21 Destination File: C: emp1SEXUALMAGICUNRATED_SCN.ISO
    I 07:19:21 File Splitting: Auto
    I 07:19:21 Detect Mastering Errors: No
    I 07:19:21 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
    I 07:19:21 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 1807350)
    I 07:19:22 Found IFO File: VIDEO_TS.IFO - (LBA: 280 - 289)
    I 07:19:23 Found VOB File: VIDEO_TS.VOB - (LBA: 290 - 26996) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:19:53 Found BUP File: VIDEO_TS.BUP - (LBA: 26997 - 27006)
    I 07:19:53 Found IFO File: VTS_01_0.IFO - (LBA: 27007 - 27035)
    I 07:19:54 Found VOB File: VTS_01_0.VOB - (LBA: 27036 - 52831) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:20:24 Found VOB File: VTS_01_1.VOB - (LBA: 52832 - 576983) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:30:26 Found VOB File: VTS_01_2.VOB - (LBA: 576984 - 1101046) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:40:28 Found VOB File: VTS_01_3.VOB - (LBA: 1101047 - 1625227) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:50:34 Found VOB File: VTS_01_4.VOB - (LBA: 1625228 - 1807320) - KEY: N/A
    I 07:54:04 Found BUP File: VTS_01_0.BUP - (LBA: 1807321 - 1807349)
    I 07:54:04 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:34:43
    I 07:54:04 Average Read Rate: 1,735 KB/s (1.3x) - Maximum Read Rate: 1,801 KB/s (1.3x)
    I 10:12:57 Operation Started!
    I 10:12:57 Source File: C: emp1SEXUALMAGICUNRATED_SCN.MDS
    I 10:12:57 Source File Sectors: 1,807,351 (MODE1/2048)
    I 10:12:57 Source File Size: 3,701,454,848 bytes
    I 10:12:57 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 1.30 (E:)
    I 10:12:57 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: LONGTEN 001) (Speeds: 1x, 2x, 4x)
    I 10:12:57 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
    I 10:12:57 Write Mode: DVD
    I 10:12:57 Write Speed: 1x
    I 10:12:57 Test Mode: No
    I 10:12:57 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 10:12:57 Filling Buffer...
    I 10:12:59 Writing LeadIn...
    I 10:14:44 Writing Image...
    E 17:18:15 Failed to Write Sectors 705536 - 705551 - Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
    I 17:18:15 Synchronising Cache...
    E 17:18:15 Failed to Write Image!
    E 17:18:15 Operation Failed! - Duration: 07:05:17
    I 17:18:15 Average Write Rate: 55 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 1,439 KB/s (1.0x)

    Any help would be appreciated!
     
  2. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi,

    In order to burn with Decrypter you need to use ISO Read and ISO write mode. Decrypter can only burn ISO's, not files.

    The kicker is that you're running Windows 98 and a FAT32 files system which can't support files over 4GB so in essence you're out of luck using Decrypter to burn since an ISO is one big fat image of the whole disc which is almost always over the 4GB limit of FAT32.

    Do you have any burning software such as Nero, RecordNow etc.?
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  3. SIO

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    So I have to use a different method?

    I do have Nero V6.0.0.9. What do I do?
     
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    Wonderful! You have Nero.

    The first thing I would suggest is if you have InCD installed, go ahead and uninstall it since it can mess up the burn process and is best removed if you don't need it.

    Second, update your version of Nero to the latest version. The older version you have was known to have bugs.

    Third download DVD Shrink and install it. Shrink is an outstanding app for ripping and compressing films and can also burn by using Nero's burning engine. It's also much more versatile than Decrypter :)

    Here's a link to some great animated guides to give you a rough idea of how Shrink works:

    http://dvdshrink.info/index.php
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  5. herbsman

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    Why even mess with .ISO image for DVDs , it's natural format is VOB/IFO/BUP files [although I do use DVD Decrypter to copy to copy myself in ISO format , but then I have WinXP].
    That brings me to , I would highly suggest perhaps trying to upgrade to WinXP ... it's a 'lot' better O/S ;c)

    I would concur w/ Nephilm btw & suggest you do d/l DVD Shrink ... it's all so easy thereon in [lol]

    P.S. This made me laugh
     
  6. 3dogs

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    There is your first mistake,you tried to burn the MDS
    FILES,thats a no no.
     
  7. sly_61019

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    when you dealing with images while using fat32, the .mds file IS the one you burn.
    As for SIO, try better media.

     
  8. SIO

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    Is having little burn through holes in the media a
    sign of bad/cheap media or is it a sign that my Pioneer burner is going bad?

    The other DVD movie that I managed to make a copy of had a few burn through holes and a few skips.

    I read on the forum that TDK DVD-R47a are good to use when there are bad medium errors. Do other people agree?

    How do I know if the reading or the writing is at fault?

    In my failed burns, I have the first four chapters working and then the rest of the DVD gets pixelly and then locks up.
     
  9. SIO

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    That movie that I can't make a copy of is only 3.44 GB in size.

    Source File Size: 3,701,454,848 bytes

    So the 4 GB problem shouldn't apply if I understand correctly.

    Perhaps the problem is cheap media. I'm going to look for TDK DVD-R. Someone suggested TDK DVD-r47a are good to use when there are bad medium errors.
     
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    That is not good media.

    That is a very slow Write Rate. Could also be the bad media but are you sure you have DMA Enabled?
    http://www.mrbass.org/dvdnewbie/#2
    http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/IDE-DMA.mspx

    Otherwise use DVD Shrink, Nero and some good disc's.
     
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    Good discs being Ritek G04/G05 or Verbatim ... and of course TY's !: ]-~
     
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    I couldn't find TDK media in town, but I was able to find Fuji DVD-Rs in a 10 disc box with jewel boxes.

    There were some Memorex DVD on 25 disc spindles around, but I heard that it isn't any good.

    There are Maxells availble in 25 disc spindles and there are Kodak 50 disc spindles that I could buy. Are Maxells good DVD media? Are Kodak good DVD media?

    I have reason to think that my computer is partially at fault. I had my computer lock up after a partial burn on Fuji media. Playing the ripped files I still had on my hard drive at the same sections where the burned DVD gets stuck or pixelly seems to show that the Ripping is fine. The burning seems bad.

    I moved my burner to an older computer and got good results on the Fuji DVD-Rs. Using the Pine and Pro-media discs still gave burn throughs and sticky playback.

    Does this sound like motherboard or processor problems on my main computer.
     

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