I am still using Windows ME (FAT32). I have always followed the guides to a tee to use DVD Shrink to backup DVD's to my hard drive and then burn with DVD Decrypter (ref:http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd9_to_dvdr_with_dvd_shrink.cfm) It has been working great for a year now. Problem- DVD Shrink has problems with the latest encoding technology (ARccOS). The DVD Shrink guy went to work for Nero so there will be no more updates for Shrink. I have searched and cannot find in this forum an answer on how to shrink the newest DVD's on the market onto my humble Windows ME with any other program...any help is appreciated, otherwise I guess I will have to break down and give in to Micr$oft and get XP after all, I would like to exhaust all resources before this happens!