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x1900 crossfire vs 8800 ?

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by chamonofx, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. chamonofx

    chamonofx Regular member

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    oh ok I know some games work better for sli than crossfire and viceversa, but same thing happens with nvidia / ati ...
     
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    So do you guys think it would be worth trying to just rebuild my current computer in a few months when I get some money. Or should I just leave that one and start over.

    I would give you my specs, but this has nothing to do with the original post. So I will continue over in the "Official PC Building Thread".
     
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    it's alright, we've answered the original Post. I will see you in the PC building thread.
     
  4. chamonofx

    chamonofx Regular member

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    I don't mind if you guys wanna continue here anyway :)
    I usually build my pc every 2 years with 100% new parts, and change the video card probably once in those 2 years.
    This one might last a little bit longer thou , due to the fact i got very high end (at least for me) parts when I bought it. I might just get the 8800GTS 640mb when the 8900 is released , for the price drop.
     
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    I'm contemplating an 8900, depending on how much better they are than the GTX. If they're only a minor improvement, I may hang on to my X1900 a bit longer.
     
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    I feel like I should have already gotten an 8800 GTS instead of the 7950 GT. But I don't have Vista and when I put a thread up asking what card I should get at the time, everybody told me to go with the 7950 GT because the 8800 GTS had a lot of problems and drivers issues. And also said that I couldn't even use DX10 without Vista (which I knew already). But I still feel like I should have gotten it so I wouldn't want to be upgrading right now.
     
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    The Directx10 issue is still bull, there still aren't any games that require DX10 cards to look their best, and Vista still annoys me. (For a start it's not compatible with my PC, for reasons unknown). On average the 8800GTS is 50-51% faster than the 7950GT, but notably 168% faster in Oblivion Outdoors. This, however is for the 640MB version.
    In the UK the 7950GT is £123 and the 8800GTS £247 (From Scan)
    In the US the 7950GT is $200 and the 8800GTS $380 (From Newegg)
     
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    That might have to be my next upgrade. Either that or a Core 2 Duo. And if I did get a Core 2 Duo I would want either the E6600 or the E6700, probablly. But I've heard that the E6600 overlocks a lot better.
     
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    If you're an overclocker get the 6600. that ocs to pretty much the same speed as the 6700.
     
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    I don't know the first thing about overclocking to to tell you the truth. The main reason is because all of my previous computers have been store bought, so I couldn't overclock them. I do know that how high you can overclock depends on different parts of your system such as your ram and motherboard and not just the processor. And I think the more heat you can get rid of the higher you can overclock. So I guess that would be why water cooling would be better (and quieter). I know you change the multiplier to get different speeds. But thats about all I know. If I tried to overclock anything I don't know how far I would get.

    But I have heard of some people such as DocTY getting 3.4 GHz and sometimes I've heard 4 GHz + mentioned.
     
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    No time like the present to start learning! I never bothered before, but when I got a Core 2 Duo, it was a breeze.
     
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    So I suppose it's definitely worth your time to overclock a Core 2 Duo?
     
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    yes, while they are fast stock w/ NO overclocking, given the chance and the general ease of doing so, why not? given the right combination of components and the right guidance, i can teach ANYONE with an open mind and some patience towards a healthy overclock :)

    docTY
     
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    Sounds good, I'll let you know when I get the parts, it's going to be a while before I can do it though. But thanks.

    But while I'm shoping around and saving, which Core 2 Duo would you recomend? I think my budget should be around $700 for the motherboard and processor, the rest of the parts I will take from my current computer. But I still don't know if I will need new ram or not. It's DDR2 but thats all I know.

    Thanks again.
     
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    @spenman91

    i don't want to further detract from the original topic of this thread and to the original poster...i will be more than happy to continue with my thoughts and recommendations in the pc building thread~ see u there.
     
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    just if anyone reads this... I managed to put the fan to the ninja , and took out 1 of the extractors. Wow I got 6-8 C LESS now! This is pretty amazing. Sctyhe Ninja plus owns!

    EDIT: processor idle 23-24
    load 28-29
     
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    Great temps, which CPU?
     
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    E6600
    core 2 duo running @ 3.15ghz
    EDIT: week 27 :D
     
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    That's incredible, congrats!
     
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    Thanks! :D
    EDIT: I also cleaned the case when I opened it, and I wonder if this made a considerable difference, cos it was DIRTY as hell, and the temps I get now are just way lower. I mean, I was getting 55 C on load, now I get 29 wtf!
    I also rearranged the cables inside to allow a better air flow, I had them all neat but for some reason some dettached, so I needed to reorganize them. Anyway, I assume it's a combination of everything, but clean case + aerocool (25 cm side fan and 10 cm front fan) + scythe ninja plus with fan attached to it + good air flow + extractor + cables arranged = LOW temps and me happy :D
     
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