I've had a chip & 80gb HD in my box for about 4 years or so but I can't remember which one it is since I hadn't done the install myself. I think it's an Xecuter 3 (have they been around 4 years?), it's on a red board and has 3 switches mounted on the front of the console. I've never had it on xbox live but last night I decided to fire up Phantasy Star and give that a try, I turned off the chip, and turned on the xobx. Error 13. Then I remembered ages ago, back when Chronicles of Riddick came out on DVD it had tried to update my dashboard or something and froze up half way through. I eventually turned the system off and back on and everything seemed to be working as normal. I never go to the MS dashboard for anything, until yesterday to try and set up xbox live, but I assume the failed update that Riddick caused is the root of my problem. If I put in a game, it will load up and play no problem, saving games still works too, but that's all that works. I can't boot to evox, slayers or the auto installer 3. All 3 boot discs were burned to CD-RW but all give an Error 14. I've tried both banks and with the chip both on and off, no luck. Any ideas?