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evga or xfx 285?

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by drako17, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. drako17

    drako17 Regular member

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    its between xfx 285 black edition or evga gtx 285 ssc

    hxxp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398460&CatId=2306

    hxxp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398466&CatId=3669

    i know the price is high.
    i just need help choosing between these.
     
  2. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Sammoris the GTX 285 might aswell be better than the HD4870x2 in overall. But the only reason is that they provided NVIDIA games this year. and if they provide ATI games sooner or later then the HD48780X2 would probably be billions times better than it is currently. So this year the NVIDIA graphics cards may be better. But if you choose to crossfire or wait up maybe ATI games will really be provided then go ahead and go for the HD4870x2 I personally would get either one They're both good cards and I don't know weather you should get the EVGA or XFX. I heard some bad and some good reviews about EVGA and I don't know anything about XFX quite yet.
     
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    I say XFX but then again that all I've ever ran until next week I'll be running a EVGA.
     
  5. hbgkbk

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    EVGA, you get a step up program for 3 months plus good warranty. I've been buying evga since i got my 8800GT last Feb, then i got a 680i, along with a 260 Core 216.
     
  6. sammorris

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    Lol @ Gera.
    Please stop posting utter nonsense. There are no 'ATI games' or 'nvidia games' - there are those that take part in nvidia's The way it's meant to be played, but ATI do not have such a scheme themselves. What you will also find is that with 3/4 of the games that use 'The way it's meant to be played' ATI hardware pretty much matches nvidia, and sometimes even beats it. Long gone are the Doom 3 days when graphics brand literally determined whether the game would be playable or not, it's all pretty equal now, and given that the GTX285 is usually bested by the HD4850X2 which is two thirds the price, you must need to heavily use very specific titles that don't have crossfire support to justify throwing away $200 on a GTX285.
    If you want to stick with nvidia but have any sense, buy an XFX GTX260 Black. The overclock on it is such that it's within 10% of the GTX285, and it only costs $250 or $260 from newegg.

    Overall, brand-wise, XFX seem to best EVGA quite handily purely based on the large pile of faulty stuff I've seen be posted at afterdawn, you just don't hear of anywhere near as many problems with XFX, and I highly doubt that's because they're not popular.
     
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    Sammoris I didn't post nonsense I posted almost what you meant. Oh so your saying that the GTX XFX 260 Black is only 10% worse than the gtx 285? which is it's 90% of it? Well that's what I heard for the gtx 280. And that means gtx 280 and gtx 285 are the same exact thing? Anyways sam thanks for making my post make sense you like forwarded to it. What about the gtx 295? I see the benchmarks for the gtx 295 one are way above the HD4870X2 and I think it's worth the price.
     
  8. sammorris

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    The GTX285 and GTX280 are about 10-12% apart, but the GTX260 Black is actually faster than the GTX280 (since they're the same card with different clock speeds, though the GTX280 has a bit more memory).

    The GTX295 isn't really worth it - the reason I say this is because the only need for cards that powerful are for very high resolutions with AA applied, and the GTX295 completely collapses at those settings, where the HD4870X2 does not. The GTX295 is also considerably more expensive than the HD4870X2.
     
  9. gera229

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    But wouldn't the black edition show less benchmarks still? Thanks.
     
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    That sentence doesn't make any sense...
     
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    sammoris, there is no doubt that the HD 4870x2 is a great card, but the OP asked between the two choices whether XFX would be better or the EVGA. The 4870x2 does have its advantages here and there, but so does the gtx285. they both will vary and play differently with each game, so there is no reason NOT to get the 280, unless you just like ATI cards or visa versa. heres a review on the XFX 285 black edition comparing it with an 4870x2.
    http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYyMCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

    personally i would go with the XFX black edition.
     
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    I wouldn't say that the HD4870X2 is always better than the GTX285, but the utterly marginal difference between an overclocked GTX260 and the GTX285 (yet a huge price difference) means that the 285 is still a pointless card. You are essentially spending $150 on 7 or 8% more performance, in typical games. The HD4870X2 may not be such a sure bet, but it offers a considerable amount more than 7 or 8 % in the games that work with it.
    In properly coded games (for instance, Fallout 3 and Far Cry 2 in the HardOCP test) the 4870X2 cleans up (and the 4850X2 would also do well). GTA4 and Call of Duty World at War are well known to have problems with the game engine and this means they fall down with crossfire performance. Crysis Warhead is merely a heavily biased nvidia title. Overall, I still maintain the 4870X2 is a far superior card (value-wise) to the GTX285, as is the GTX260, before you think I'm biased.
     
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    ok then so your saying that there is no point in getting the 285. instead i should get the 260 since its alot cheaper and could be overclocked to be 10% less than the 285? is that correct? i also read that the 260 was over heating. so whch is the best one. where i dont ahve to worry about heat?
     
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    Given that the GTX260 and GTX285 use the same cooler, I doubt you'd get any more or less problems using the 285.
     
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    drako was there any reason why you had to pick a gtx 285? what resolution are you going to be playing at? type of games you will be playing? if money is no option you can just get a gtx 295 and be done with it, but then if your playing on specific resolution or playing games like WOW, then it'd be a waste of money.
     
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    resolution at the moment is 1280x960. ill be getting a 1080i plasma tv. as i dont use a monitor. as far as games go. ill be playing supcom, gta 4 hawx, fear 2, and well every new game that comes out this year. at least the one worth getting.

    so i should just get the 260 black edition? i mean if it saves me some money for more less the same performance then ill just get that one.
     
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    Draka I recommend you get hd 4870x2, gtx 260, or gtx 280 for that resolution. 285 or 295 will be more than enough so it's pointless. Unless your getting a very very high resolution. Peace.
     
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    yea i might as well get the 260 black edition. ill use the extra cash to get 2 500 gb hard drives. thanks for all you all's help.
     
  20. dragnandy

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    yea i think with 1080i, the gtx 260 would be enough. dont leave out the HD 4870 though, which in short, is like the ATI counterpart of the gtx 260.
     

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