i remember the CD-R was $6 per disc.. u bought a stack of 5 for $30, would discover that 1 or 2 discs were damaged in the 2x-speed burning process. and i and ppl around me where happy with the 3 succesfull discs. almost no dog on earth had a cd burner. and not even al cd playing machines like audio system could read the burned discs. but we paid the price for it cuz the technology was new. i know i tought it was a nice time of improvement.. but now i think ppl dont see the improvement anymore. maybe we get used or bored to the fact that we get new technical miracles everyday. this blueray discs are little frisbee-shaped-mini-harddiscs that can hold up to 50G!! i think BD kick ass. no problem i pay $2-4 per disc. plus ALL discs work if u burn them right... woot!
So what? Sony can make games require a certain firmware before being allowed to be played. Besides that, the huge majority of PS3 players play online unlike the PS2. Sony could just ban anyone who has any type of mod to their PS3. A ps3 without Online is hardly worth playing. This time around I don't think "I want to play backups" will be believed if someone challenges the legality of a mod because Blu Ray discs are virtually indestructible unless you deliberately want to damage the disc. I definitley don't want to see it hacked, it will ruin the PS3. Geohot has no chance of succeeding, he's basically broadcasting to the world what he's doing. Sony can use that to block his attempts. The iPhone was a simple phone designed by a company completely new to phones, the PS3 is a mature console made by Sony whose last 2 consoles were hacked to bits. They spent around $60 million this time around for security, I don't think it went to waste.
Is it just me or everytime someone hopes the PS3 gets hacked on this forum, a member shows up acting all pessimistic or tries to put someone down by questioning someone else's morality? Oh well who cares I just hope it get's hacked so I could use custom firmware like on my psp.
I pretty much want to see it hacked as well. And my only reason is that it's just so interesting to me. I may never even attempt to do anything with it depending on the consequences but just reading about what is going on in the scene and the fight that would happen between the users and Sony would be more entertaining to me than it should be.
Simply because we can see how secure Sony made the PS3. In 3 years no one has succeeded in releasing a single mod or a single exploit. Nothing whatsoever. Sony have their own people constantly looking for exploits who report back to them to patch the exploit and that is with the source code for the OS, these hackers like geohot don't have any access to the source code and are in essence a one man team who thinks its a good idea to report to the world the methods they are using to find an exploit.
Hmmm good point but i'm sure someone will figure it out soon. It's just a matter of time and dedication.
Sony PS2 was hacked pretty fast and was Sony's major success to date. Even with people all around copying their games. PS3 has no known form of "hackery", and its been Sony biggest headache! I'm not saying that if it gets hacked it will be better. I'm just saying it does not matter. (and probably games would be a bit cheaper - that I would love). Why did some guys hacked WEP a few years ago? For the sake of knowledge or to steal someone's internet connection? Myself I would like to see it hacked so we could have some decent speeds in Linux, and mainly so that big companies like Sony or M$ keep paying guys to discover and invent new secure systems. Jobs are always needed. A few days ago, some pros proved RSA ain't as secure as it used to be (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/07/rsa_768_broken/), and that is a good thing... makes us rethink the problem and move forward. So what if sj512 wants to pirate games? Leave him be. You want to buy your games? That's fine too, go ahead. Unless you are some kind of police, what's the point of saying sj512 is wrong and you are right? Are you mad because you had to spend money on that huge collection of games of yours? (btw: you should be glad you can lend you console to your friends for free... because if Sony, and others, could, they would find a way for your friends to pay some fees and things like that!). If they crack ps3 in 2010 will I get my hands on pirated games? Sure. Will I continue buying the games I like? Sure. Will I continue spending money on playstation magazines? Sure. Will some guys in Somalia, who aren't as lucky as I am who can afford 69€ for a game, copy any game they can get their hands on? Hell yeah they will :-D and I'm not worried about that...
CDR and DVDR media is not free...it is cheaper, but still not free. I wonder why you compair the PS3 to all the last-gen systems, and not to the 360...that's just silly. Plus, don't forget the hidden cost of copied games for the 360: a bricked console and a worthless xbox live account.
As WII and PC games can be run via ISO on your HDD that = free 360 games can be copied to the HDD also that = free Original XBox games can be copied to the HDD = free I guess if you look at it, the PS3, 360, Xbox, PC all have HDD's, so they could all be free and the need for blank media gone
1) It cost you "X" amount for your PC, Internet & etc = that is not free 2) 360 games that are copied to the HDD still need a disc to run (copied or not) = not free 3) Original Xbox needs a bigger HDD than stock to do this = that is not free There is usually a cost one way or the other! Personally I like a good quality physical media as a backup WITH the use of a HDD for ease of use over just 1 option. Think about it ~ if the HDD in my PC dies I lose EVERYTHING! Having a disc backup is exactly what it is intended for...a backup!
1)Being given a PC by a friend, who happens to give you copies of games whilst your living at home with your parents = free 2)Not true, jtagged, running of the consoles 120GB HDD = free 3) Also not true, the stock HDD had enough room for one game, so that would = free I think the whole ephasis of what KajNrig meant when he said WII/PC was free, was that the price that has gone into running back ups of them is nothing compared to $2 that would be needed to purchase Blu Ray media. I mean we could debate costs untill we run out of words to write, we could argue that it costs to have internet to download games, or mods to hack said consoles, we could argue that it costs money to have the connsole powered on, but that would take away from the main point of what KajNrig was trying to get across.
In any case, the chances of the PS3 being hacked is slim to none. Sony have themselves more than covered.
The PSP hacking pretty much destroyed the library of games on the PSP. So, the PS3 will never be hacked - end of discussion.
Nice post h3lder. And in my opinion, the PSP hasn't done aswell as the DS simply because most people considered it a portable PS2. I own a PSP and hardly use it for gaming. Mostly use it for music and reading manga. The PSP isn't doing well either because no one's interested. When it comes to a console not being successful I think it has little to do with it being hacked or not. It's just a matter of whether people like it or not. Unfortunately, not so many people want the PSPgo. I mean for starters the price is just ridiculous for such a small thing. I mean how silly can sony get. They should have learnt from their earlier pricing mistake with the PS3 and not repeated it with the go. I know a lot of fanboys out their would love to justify the price but any reasonable person would admit that it's way too high for such a small thing. Hell it's not even a cell phone lol. So i see no reason why it should cost that much.
I'm thinking in getting a PSP too - next holiday season - but like you said Promethos, I find it very expensive too. I'm not paying 169€ for a new one (with 189€ I can get an Xbox 360 Arcade). I think the PSP is nice for some retro gaming and little else. Sony hasn't taken advantage of its natural mobile potential. The titles are smaller versions of what exists in ps3. No killer game using wifi or the internet, and unfortunately, for them and us as well, they didn't even try. People want to play mobile - watch how iPhone games are growing in number - but somehow this dedicated gaming machine named PSP is just to big, to expensive, so game lacking that doesn't make you wish carrying it around all the time! How many of you have your PSP stationed at home? (a few meters away from your PS3 or Xbox 360). (first PSP firmware came without a web browser! How naive can Sony be? Why wifi then?) This is getting a bit off topic I guess. We started talking about a PS3 hack for 2010!