25 episodes of lost onto DVD, question

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  1. David5093

    David5093 Member

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    I have the full first season of Lost in XviD format at about 350 Meg per episode. Now i followed the guide on here and used Avi2DVD which produced an output file about 2.4 Gig, now obviously at this rate its gonna be about 2 episode per disc which aint good.

    Now since ive never done this is it best to then use DVD shrink to make the output files from Avi2DVD smaller then hoof them on to a couple of DVD's

    Cheers Dave

    P.S. Is there any better programs for doing this as one episode took about 1h 40mins to encode to MPEG 2
     
  2. jbritz22

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    Use the program winavi, or buy it, buy it actually. Or find a serial on the net, and I cant help you with that. I can actually, but im not permitted on these boards.
     
  3. gear79

    gear79 Guest

    implementing possible cracks for programs is prohibited jbritz22 and it seems like you know that already, so dont bother talking about it anyway. its a one way ticket to getting baned.


    @ David5093
    what kind of dvd player do you have? there is a way that you can fit them files all on one dvd and have it successfully play, but your stand alone dvd player needs to support this type of format. its called 'data' and works great for me. i have put almost every episode of a few cartoons on one disk and have great sound and video quality too.
     
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    Unless if you can do a data DVD, 25 episodes on 1 disc will be overdoing it. Post your DVD player model so gear79 can let you know if you can do a Data DVD.

    How long is each episode on average? You can probably encode the video bitrate to about 2200kbs and the audio to 192 and have viewable quality. The only thing is that you will fit about 4 hours and change on each disc. I am assuming this will be 5 discs for the entire season.

    Because of your original file size, I am guessing, that you can probably encode to a lower bitrate with little change in quality.
     
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    @david5093,

    25 episodes on a single layer 4.7GB (4.3GB)??? Nah... I wouldn't even bother to do it. May be 3 or 4 the most, but definitely "not" 25.

    If I understand you correctly, then you're saying after running Avi2DVD the files is about 2.4GB each episode right? If this is the case then you can probably encode 4 episodes and have Nero Recode 2 or DVD Shrink to encode so it can fit onto one single layer disc.
     
  6. David5093

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    Its a Sony DVP S536D which i dont believe can run data DVD's.

    Each episode is about 42 mins and when i encode i get an output file of about 2.4Gig from a 350Meg source file. I know its too much of a stretch to fire these on one DVD (4.7) but i thought 2 or 3 would have done it.

    Dave
     
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    @David5093
    why dont you use tmpgenc for doing your episodes,I done mine and set them at app. 800meg ---1gig accordingly, so some have 4 eps. on, and some have 5. quality is quite good,
     
  8. gear79

    gear79 Guest

    my dvd player is an LG LDA-511 and it plays data, so does the LGDVB 418
     
  9. David5093

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    If i buy WinAVI will i get better encoding results than Avi2DVD?

    Dave
     
  10. JaguarGod

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    WinAVI is fast, but not good for quality. I like TMPGEnc. I cannot say anythig about avi2dvd because that one does not work for me.

    You can use TMPGEnc in constant quality mode. You will not get very big files. Also, it will encode rather fast. That is what I do if I want to get more episodes on 1 disc. I managed to get 13 episodes of Gundam on 1 disc with excellent quality. This means you can put 7 episodes of lost, so 4 discs total.

    You should experiment with different quality modes with an encoder. Do about 5 minutes of an episode in different bitrates and see how it looks on your PC, or if you have a DVDRW try burning them on it.

    You can use these bitrates to experiment with quality. All audio is assumed 192 bitrate:

    800kbs: 350MB per episode (2 discs)
    1300kbs: 520MB per episode (3 discs)
    1850kbs: 700MB per episode (4 discs)
    2400kbs: 880MB per episode (5 discs)
    2900kbs: 1050MB per episode (6 discs)

    My opinion is that 800kbs video is way too low and 2900kbs will be too high. I think 1850kbs should be good enough with little difference in quality from the higher bitrates.

    Just keep in mind that increasing bitrate will not always improve picture quality. This totally depends on your source. Also, after you get to a certain point, increasing bitrate will yield a decreasing marginal gain in quality while the marginal cost remains constant.

    Try some of the suggested bitrates. You can even do the same part of an episode 5 times, each with a different bitrate and put them on 1 DVDRW. This way you will see what the quality difference is.

    When you encode you final project, your bitrates will not be round numbers as I suggested. Maybe for 4 discs the actual bitrate you should use will be 1793kbs. This depends on the actual length of movie.
     
  11. David5093

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    Cheers JaguarGod for the excellent reply.

    I just made a movie with Win AVI and i wasn't impressed at all, Avi2DVD was so much better, ill give TMPGEnc a whirl though and see what it's like

    Thanks again

    Dave
     

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