A big thanks to all the guys who have done the biz on the firmware fixes for the d boxes up and down! I have a starview original clone. I wasn't very hopeful that there would be a fix but i've recently flashed my box with the latest firmware once again and everything is tickety boo! as we speak. I have also sorted a total of 4 cryptview boxes for several mates! Now my point is i'm ok at reading these forums, being patient, picking through them page by page, only asking questions if I cannot find the answers after hours of painstaking research! So please everyone give the clever lads on here a break and next time the boxes go down (and they will) sit, wait, be patient and look for the bloody answers before bombarding the poor sods with a load of questions that can be answered with a wee bit of patience! Once again A BIG THANKS AND ALL THE BEST FOR 2009 to all forum users! Dezzer!