I have a DVD-R that was sent to me which plays OK in my standalone player, but I cannot copy it correctly because the disc itself is badly corrupted in some way - it has TONS of scuffs and scratches on it and I guess some of those are too severe. When I try to copy it with Ripitforme/dvddecrypter like i usually use it tells me that several "cells" in one file were unable to be ripped, that since the disc does not have encryption that quite likely the problem is dust/dirt, and asks if i want to try re-ripping them after cleaning the disc. It even identifies the file/bad cells in the file. If i then tell it go ahead and try again, dvddecrypter gets to about 50% into the bad file (VTS_01_4.VOB), slows down to like 0.0x speed, up goes the error/retries counter, then i get a severe operating system error asking for Abort/Retry/Ignore....long story short I cannot get the bad "cells" off the thing. If I do an "Ignore" and then look at what i got, the video is missing the last 10 minutes or so. I've also tried using DVDFABDECRYPTER to do the ripping, also with bad results; it bombs totally and i can't even get anything. A friend told me he "rips" with DVDshrink and that I should do that (I use DVDshrink all the time but not for ripping and didn't even know that was an option), but I even tried that, but DVDshrink doesn't even START ripping the damn thing, it just says "invalid DVD navigation structure" and does NOTHING AT ALL. Since the disc has no encryption or anything like that, I even thought to try simply copying the VIDEO_TS folder directly in windoze to my hard drive, but it gets stuck trying to copy the last VOB file (VTS_01_4.VOB) and eventually tells me it has an error of some kind and cannot proceed. I can get the other files, but not the last one, which obviously is where the corruption is. Out of curiousity I tried checking the disc with NeroCDspeed and am amazed at the terrible condition of this disc. It is the worst I've ever seen. For PI ERRORS it has AVG=87.29, MAX=669, TOTAL=1475952 For PI FAILURES it has AVG=3.20, MAX=144, TOTAL=433396 and it has a QUALITY SCORE of 0!!!!! Sheesh!!! For discs I make myself, I am used to seeing #s like this disc that I recently created/tested: PI ERRORS AVG=1.37, MAX=144, TOTAL=23421 PI FAILURES AVG=0.01, MAX=3, TOTAL=1096 QUALITY=93 Is there any kind of software designed to help read troublesome discs like this? Or any tricks I can try like putting it in the freezer, or washing it with holy water, or some bizarre thing like that that is supposed to help make a bad disc more readable, even temporarily?? Or perhaps is it possible that a different DVD drive might by some miracle have better luck at dealing with this kind of bad disc? (I am using a Liteon LH-20A1H with firmware revision LL0A) Any suggestions appreciated!
I have the same Lite-On other than its sata and i must say the transcoding capabilities of the drive sucks so yes another drive may work i suggest Pioneer. If i was guessing though by the sound of things probably nothing going to work since its already a backed up disc. and few things to try though 1. take it to the video store and let then run it though they disc cleaner or clean it as good as you can 2. try re-ripping it with dvd decrypter using brute force ignoring read errors 3.Intervideo DVD Copy 6 transcodes about anything 4. if you would happen to have an old program called DVD X Copy Rescue ,that may work
this is a damaged disk........ if you can't bring it to a store to clean the disk properly then I would suggest you try to clean the disk by hand! With damaged disks I was successful about 75% of the time to correct the problems of scratches! some disks you won't be able to! This is what I do when everything else fails.... because it's harsh, do this only at YOUR OWN RISK as I don't take responsibility for damaged disks! 1. get BRASSO brass cleaner 2. 2 lint free cloths 3. a residue free cleaner (I use glass cleaner) apply a dab of Brasso onto one of the lint free cloths and rub it onto the disk from the inner circle to the outer rim IN A STRAIGHT LINE. This is important. DO NOT RUB IN A ROUND CIRCLE OF THE DISK as this is the path of the laser that reads the disk. If you rub and make scratches on the disk in a round circle you will definitely make the disk unreadable...... that's why you rub in a straight line from inner circle to outer rim! what you want to do is take out the scratches that are already in there! Using Brasso will give it just enough friction to rub the scratches out. You will need elbo grease (another words: Pressure) to physically rub the scratches out. I put the disk in a CD/DVD case and rub the Brasso back and forth, vigorously, in a straight line and then move the disk to the next area and repeat this procedure.... REMEMBER: IN A STRAIGHT LINE. I do this throughout the complete disk. then I use the glass cleaner and clean the disk from the brasso that is left on. Again.... clean the same way.... in a straight line from inner hub to outer circle! When you are finished then check the disk and make sure there is no residue left on the disk and the disk is dry and clean! If there are still many scratches DO IT AGAIN! Until you get the best results you can get. THEN TRY TO RIP THE DVD! Sometimes you get better results. good luck.
Thank you both for your suggestions. I had written some followup responses to some of Zoso's points last night but I see they didn't get posted - I must've only pressed the Preview button...oh well... Anyways I have some things to go on now so wish me luck and thx again.
If you’ve got a TV card in your computer connect the DVD player that it plays on to it and copy it on the fly has its playing did this with a DVD of a panto my daughter was in “O no you didn’t O yes I did “ Ha don’t you just love panto’s
@Killalot...........what did you just say???? it's a little incoherent! try using a little more punctuation!
If you’ve got a TV card in your computer 1, connect the standalone DVD player to the TV card 2, insert disk in DVD player 3, start the software that came with the TV card and select the DVD player as the source playback composite or Svideo which ever way you connected it 4, start the DVD and press record on the software that you are using 5, put kettle on and come back when finished Sorry if it wasn’t clear enough for you my daughter knew what I was on about and I Apologies for my English didn’t realise it was that bad.
I understood what you meant, don't worry about it - I even know what a "panto" is!! Sadly I do not have any type of video capture card in my PC or using that with my player would be an option. I was thinking of having a friend with a standalone DVD player to try copying it, although then I would lose all the menus, which is why I'd rather get a PC data copy. I'm still going to try some of that rescue type software if I can get it on my PC, and if that fails then I'll have another friend try it with his PCs (he has multiple PCs and different drives and maybe one of those will read this better than mine), then if no go trying a standalone DVD player/copier, then last resort is the BRASSO cleaner idea. This disc is a really rare thing, came to me from a drummer in band in Denmark (& I've been unsuccessful in getting him to send me another one), and I'd really like to get it fixed up if I can. Thanks for everyones' advice.
The disk hasn’t got a stick on label on it has it? If yes soak it in some cold water for a few minutes and peel it off don’t scratch it off though if it has.
No label on it. Just scratched/scuffed as hell on the lower side. THANKS for that tip though. I hate stick-on labels, can't believe there are some people out there that use them! In my experience they ALWAYS cause problems, if not right away, then as they dry out and start to detach.
