After 1000 burns - suddenly I can't burn ANYTHING - help?

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  1. gerard514

    gerard514 Regular member

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    Hmm..Seems pretty odd but glad to see everything is working for you.
    Deff. a great site.

     
  2. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    @ Mark2005

    Did you try uninstalling the drive through Device Manager before you physically removed it? Often times that'll do the trick when you encounter odd problems with a drive. Good to hear everything is working out :)
     
  3. restart

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    You have to remember this. Before you start erasing and reinstalling programs, try other programs or media. See if you get the same reaction. If you do than most likely your hardware is to blame. I don't know of any virus that goes after a dvd burner software. I've had my first burner for 3 months before it went down. Sent it back to manufacturer for repairs. After a year I noticed an increase in coasters with media that gave me no problems previously - probably a weak laser beam. How can I tell? Well the data was written to the disk but was too weak to be read by dvd rom. If you cool your computer down and then reboot it, you will find that you can read out those bad sectors. Time to change the hardware. New Hardware, no coasters. I bought nec 3520a and am quite satisfied with the results.
     
  4. gdhaddad

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    hi i have had my DVDrw a PHILIPS 1620K for about 3 weeks now and have only managed to backup 20 of my DVDs. I have been using DVD shrink to do this. however recently all movies i try to back up will no longer fully burn only about 12% and then after it will fail. I have tried burning from nero aswell and the process also fails. Device manager says my Drive is working fine. Can any one help !!!???? in this process i have wasted about 10 DVDs trying to sort out the problem !!!
     
  5. Mark2005

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    before replacing the burner i tried different media...uninstalled and reinstalled the various software,got rid of the burner driver through divice manager and reinstalled it,went to sony web site and downloaded recent firmware and updated.
    It all pointed to hardware.plus various burn software that ware unrelated to each other wern't working.I have had no problems backing up dvd's since replacing the burner
     
  6. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    Glad it worked out for you :)
     
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  8. tamula

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    Well, I got my NEC3520A today from newegg, and it's working great.

    Nice to be able to burn again.

    So, are you all of the mind that 1000 burns is par for the course, and at that point it's reasonable that your burner might die and need replaced? It seemed early, to me. I was figuring it should have had a lot more life in it, yet. It certainly wasn't inexpensive, (plex 712a) at $140 about 10 months ago.


     
  9. dlc2000

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    that is good news . the nec 3520 is a nice drive .
     
  10. shooter

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    All I can add is that I have burned over 3000 DVD's in the last 2 or 3 years. During that time I have went though 4 burners. They ALL started to die the same way. First they would no longer burn at their peak rate. (the early burners were 2X and 4X, and they would only burn at 1X and 2X when they died.) Later the same problem, but it would drop down from ABLE to write at 12X, to 8, 6, 4, etc..even though I was only burning at 4X 99% of the time. When Nero would show the AVAILABLE burn speeds, over time they would simply disappear.
    After a while I just started to replace them when they started to do this. I would put the old one in one of my back up computers, and put the new one in my main machine. The old ones would still burn to some degree, and usually burned CDs fine still, but still not at their peak rating even on CD's. Now I figure between 500 and 800 burns depending on the drive before it starts to take a dump. The Pioneer drives I have owned have died the soonest. So now I just buy Plextor. I tried a couple of LiteOn drives, but had no luck with those at all. I had to return them right away. I am building a new machine now that is SATA capable, so I am putting that new Plextor SATA drive in that. It is suppose to read fast as hell, and burn fast too. I will still probably only burn at 4X or 6X and use Ridata media, as it has never let me down in the past.
    That is just my two cents worth, but it seems that when they go, they have all went in exactly the same way. IF they worked solid to begin with anyway.
    My thanks to all of you, this is a great board and you have ALL been a big help to me in the past.
     
  11. restart

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    If you've tried different media with the same results then before ruining all your dvds check with Phillips support first. If its a bad drive they'll allow you to send it in for repairs. But first see if you can write any data to it. Copy about 3 gigs of folders to the drive. If it fails, go to Phillips and explain that it fails to write the data. With only 3 weeks of use, you shouldn't have those kind of failures but they do occur.
     
  12. meash

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    Hello Tamula and other problem solvers..
    I have the same problem as you, and i've been using up all my time for the last few weeks trying to fix it. All of a sudden, my burner stoped enabling me to burn .avi's - which i'd been doing happily for over a year. Unfortuately, the suggestion that a poster above gave us must be about right - we've worked our burners down to the bone :(
    I deleted roxio (although there's still traces about that I can't get rid off..), and stuck on Nero, but it won't copy (and even if it would, for some reason, it makes out that the file is bigger than it can manage to burn..)
    Anyway! What I was going to ask, was.. did your burner go wrong after updating with microsoft updates? I clicked on an update one day, and the next thing, the burner wouldn't work.. something fishy there maybe??

    m
     
  13. blktalon

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    I had problems with my lite-on sohw-1213s after about 500+ burns. I don't use Nero so the logs don't look familiar. I used clone and decryptor to burn and both would fail at some random point in the burn. I only use TY's so I thought maybe it was a bad batch, tried a different batch same result.

    I fixed the problem(after 7 coasters) by
    1)Defragging the drive
    2)Using a CD-ROM lens cleaner
    3)Vaccuming the drive area

    Just over 100 burns after the problem through that drive and it's still going strong. Also got a lite-on SOHW-1633s from Dell(they had it for around 70 shipped) and it is running like a champ also. I work my drives hard as I use it to rip and burn running through about 5 DVD's each a day and hope they can last more than 1000 burns each. Noob out.
     
  14. judono

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    I just recently ran into a few problems with my ide 1008. I could burn cds fine and even burn movies at 4x no problem but 8x would always fail. Finally realized that the secondary ide was not recognizing my drive as dma available. It was running in PIO mode only. Freaking sucked cuz I went thru lots of dvdr's. Anyhow changed my 1008 so that it was on secondary slave and now xp recognizes the dma on it. Finally able to burn at 8x. But every so often it switches back to PIO only. I hear it could possibly be a bad disk the drive is trying to read. Oh well what can you do except delete and renistall the sec. ide channel. Anyway I hope this helps a few people out there.
     
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  15. CloneDron

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    Hi,
    I'm no expert on this. But after what you have gone through and if it were me I'd do this. Put all my user files in a safe place and do a complete format of the computer system, just as if you brought it home from the store. Then if you still run into the problems, it's one of your programs. If not, then you might have something about the 1000 hour thing.
    That's what I'd do. Forget about what programs claim to be lame because if it was working before it can't be lame can it?
    CloneDrone
     
  16. meash

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    Hmm.. I'd love to just reformat the whole computer, but i'm in a foreign country at the moment and for various reasons, it's just to impractical for me to do that..
    So, for now, i'd like to just sweep my dirt under the rug.

    However, I've got a new bit of info that i'd like to share..

    I went to event viewer to check things out, and in systems, there are a whole load of red crosses symbolising the same error.
    cdrom event 7. In its properties, it says the device /device/cdrom0 has a bad block, and it has a link to the following

    Details
    Product: Windows Operating System
    ID: 7
    Source: Cdrom
    Version: 5.2
    Symbolic Name: IO_ERR_BAD_BLOCK
    Message: The device, %1, has a bad block.

    Explanation
    The device has a bad block of memory, which Windows attempted to read. The data might be missing or corrupted.


    User Action
    Do one or all of the following:

    Retry the operation.
    Clean the physical hard drive.
    Use newer media.



    Version: 5.0
    Component: System Event Log
    Symbolic Name: IO_ERR_BAD_BLOCK
    Message: The device, %1, has a bad block.

    Explanation
    The device has a bad block of memory, which Windows attempted to read. The data might be missing or corrupted.


    User Action
    Do one or all of the following:

    Retry the operation.
    Clean the physical hard drive.
    Use newer media.


    By cleaning the physical hard drive, does that mean wiping out all my current personal stuff?? Does that mean reformating??
     
  17. dlc2000

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    are there any problems shown in the device manager ? i would try uninstalling the drive through the device manager and let windows redetect it and reinstall it , before formatting the machine .
     
  18. Oyk

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    Hi all,

    I have similar problems with my NU-Tech DDW-082 drive, but it started quite soon after I bought it.. I'd probably not even burnt 10 DVD-r's before it started. CD-r's still burn fine, but first 3 out of 4 DVD's would go wrong and now all of them do so... 2x or 4x, makes no difference..

    Maybe this isn't relevant, but my motherboard is based on the KT-400 chipset and I'd like to know which chipset other users with similar problems had, because I recently heard a lot of negative sounds on that particular chipset.. also in combination with WD harddisks.. (and guess what brand harddisk I recently bought)... :(
     
  19. meash

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    "are there any problems shown in the device manager ? i would try uninstalling the drive through the device manager and let windows redetect it and reinstall it , before formatting the machine"

    Hmm.. Sounds like good advice.. but I don't know how to check if there are any problems on the device manager, and I don't know how to uninstall the drive. Could you talk me through this process?

    Today. I tried to rar. some of my files to burn them and keep them save incase I wake up one day to a completely inefficient computer. The computer wouldn't burn rar. either. It still burns tunes though.. strange..
     
  20. Nephilim

    Nephilim Moderator Staff Member

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    To uninstall a drive,

    Start >

    Control Panel >

    System >

    Hardware >

    Go to Device Manager >

    Expand the tree for DVD/CD ROM Drives >

    Find the drive in question, right click it and go to Properties >

    Under the Driver tab, select Uninstall then OK.

    Now reboot and Windows should detect and reinstall the drive.

    If this doesn't help try the same steps as above except expand the tree for IDE ATA/ATA Controllers and uninstall either the Primary or Secondary controller depending on which one the drive in question is attatched to. Nero Info Tool can tell you which chain the drive is on under the Configuration tab.

    http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/nero_info_tool.cfm

     

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